From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ncr (numeric character reference) to unicode Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:19:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87ocuvpasu.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <5-WdnWGdu7Z1AH7UnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@sysmatrix.net> <3LydnaCSF_RDIXnUnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@sysmatrix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239981642 4829 80.91.229.12 (17 Apr 2009 15:20:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:20:42 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 17 17:22:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lupt8-0000m1-6c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:21:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41063 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Luprj-0001v9-5B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:20:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LuprL-0001td-RK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LuprG-0001s5-F2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56775 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LuprG-0001s2-9W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:38330 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LuprF-0005Yz-QI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lupr9-0001OX-US for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:19:55 +0000 Original-Received: from i59f545d7.versanet.de ([89.245.69.215]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:19:55 +0000 Original-Received: from stephen.berman by i59f545d7.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:19:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i59f545d7.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:63815 Archived-At: On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:39:43 -0500 "B. T. Raven" wrote: > But now I find that if I copy-paste from Emacs 23.0.90.1, the Greek letters > > > αβγδ > > appear in Mozilla Tbird (here) in the original order but > > > בִּּרֵאשׁיתבָּרָּאא לֹהִים אלתשָּׁמַיִם וְ אלת הָ ּאָרֶ ׃ > > > is automatically reversed without running the above command on its region. ??? > Is there invisible bidi info in the string or is it just the fact that the > characters are Hebrew that causes this? Presumably the latter. I guess Thunderbird works like OpenOffice.org, which also automatically reverses the Hebrew text, and whose Help entry for "bi-directional writing" says: ,---- | Currently, OpenOffice.org supports Hindi, Thai, Hebrew, and Arabic as | CTL [Complex Text Layout] languages. If you select the text flow from | right to left, embedded Western text still runs from left to | right. The cursor responds to the arrow keys in that Right Arrow moves | it "to the text end" and Left Arrow "to the text start". `---- Steve Berman