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From: Uwe Scholz <nurfuernews@web.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changing the language of gnus menu entries
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:13:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ob7glnog.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2861.1380124268.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
>> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:30:11 +0200
>> 
>> I don't have a good feeling about that.  It's already lots of work to
>> keep the English docstrings up to date.  And if some volunteers leave,
>> people are left with outdated docstrings in their language they count
>> on.
>> 
>> I'm not against localizing menus, but docstrings?  Most of programmers
>> will understand English, and binding so much work, constantly, for very
>> few users?  IMHO we should spend our time with other important tasks to
>> improve user experience.
>
> You are, in effect, saying that Emacs should not be localized.  If doc
> strings, echo-area messages, and help-echo messages are not to be
> localized, what's the value of having single-word menus localized?

Just to throw in some words, too: My wife uses Emacs often because she
creates LaTeX printouts for her physics classes. As she does only speak
some English, a localization of the "Preview" and the "LaTeX" menu would
be very helpful for her. Even the documentations of both packages are in
English. So I showed here the things she wanted to know and what I think
of are some nice to knows, but there may be even more. You know? :-D

The problem here is more or less related to AucTex and Preview and not
Emacs itself. But an effective infrastructure of Emacs could help here.

Basically, what I want to say is: If there would be the possibility to
localize at least the menus and the documentations, much more people
would use this great piece of software. :-)

But I guess, this is already known...

Ciao,
Uwe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-25 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-24  7:29 Changing the language of gnus menu entries Uwe Scholz
2013-09-24 14:16 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-09-24 15:14 ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-24 16:41   ` Uwe Scholz
2013-09-24 19:48     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-24 20:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <mailman.2807.1380053246.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-24 21:48         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-25 13:30           ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-09-25 15:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-25 18:29               ` Michael Heerdegen
2013-09-25 19:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-25 20:45                   ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.2878.1380138900.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-25 21:15                     ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-26  8:56                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-09-26  9:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <<8338oshfy5.fsf@gnu.org>
2013-09-25 19:54                   ` Drew Adams
2013-09-25 20:08                     ` Drew Adams
2013-09-25 20:24                     ` Peter Dyballa
2013-09-25 23:09                       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.2886.1380150595.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-26  4:05                         ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-26 17:02                           ` Drew Adams
2013-09-26 17:09                           ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2935.1380214979.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-26 17:22                             ` Dan Espen
2013-09-26 18:31                               ` Drew Adams
2013-09-26 20:37                             ` Joost Kremers
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.2964.1380232675.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-26 22:21                                 ` Joost Kremers
     [not found]                             ` <<slrnl496os.2vt.joostkremers@j.kremers4.news.arnhem.chello.nl>
2013-09-26 21:57                               ` Drew Adams
2013-09-26 19:15                           ` Dale Snell
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2936.1380215384.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-26 20:44                             ` Joost Kremers
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2954.1380222979.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-26 20:46                             ` Joost Kremers
2013-09-25 20:50                     ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.2876.1380136471.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-27  6:26                   ` Jason Rumney
2013-09-27  9:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-25 19:00             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-26  0:37               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2861.1380124268.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-25 19:13               ` Uwe Scholz [this message]
2013-09-24 20:08   ` Eli Zaretskii

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