From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: pirate bay, w3m, and the interface is just an interface (BEST post ever) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:30:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87oar55n8v.fsf@zigzag.favinet> References: <87k31v83eb.fsf@debian.uxu> <87vble5kca.fsf@zigzag.favinet> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418632004 16990 80.91.229.3 (15 Dec 2014 08:26:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:26:44 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 15 09:26:34 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0QzB-0004sQ-Ml for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:26:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38409 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0QzA-000786-JU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:26:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0Qyt-00077t-Bf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:26:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0Qyk-0000nk-KV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:26:15 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp206.alice.it ([82.57.200.102]:47980) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0Qyk-0000nQ-9h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:26:06 -0500 Original-Received: from zigzag.favinet (95.244.66.169) by smtp206.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 547D8AFA029A9906 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:26:04 +0100 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0R2p-0002i9-A1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:30:19 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Paul Rankin's message of "Mon, 15 Dec 2014 01:25:00 +1000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.102 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101589 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () Paul Rankin () Mon, 15 Dec 2014 01:25:00 +1000 Thank you, good to know someone sees the difference between someone's work and the digital representation of it! The digital representation of work is the key and click stream. That is a third concept in this discussion (that you raise to add to the confusion, i suppose). In outline form: 1. production a. context (community, vibe, etc) b. Emacs hacker c. keystrokes / mouse clicks 2. product a. Emacs b. "private"[0] / mailing list messages c. "intangible" :-D perturbations in the context That 2.[abc] feeds into 1 is vexing to the proprietary mindset, so we see the rise of professional (paid) confounders, and must endure their wiles, both opportunistic and premeditated. It's a good opportunity to hone one's patience and astuteness, and help others to do likewise. __________________________________________ [0] See rms email boilerplate. =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) =3D> nil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlSOnBQACgkQZwMiJEyAdQJLDgCgiyJmcHYf0CHU1d2HpJO5UmAh pfEAoOWiqPOa5VOq6FFaAUFOlEk1kpq9 =3Rb1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--