From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: gnuplot (was: Re: zsh outside of Emacs) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 01:58:19 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87oap1fems.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> References: <2015-02-07T12-48-06@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <87egq1fnsp.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87a90mipih.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423616421 32021 80.91.229.3 (11 Feb 2015 01:00:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 01:00:21 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 11 02:00:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLLf8-0007eR-IK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 02:00:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42605 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLLf7-0007Dr-SN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:00:17 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 60 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:q1Rp5u4dzotqYs0PJwqhu2Y512U= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:210350 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102626 Archived-At: (on topic: gnuplot - last paragraph!) torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes: >> It is not only a matter of copy and paste back and >> forth! If that is your only concern the whole >> system is integrated as it is. No, if you have any >> data in an Emacs buffer, you can immediately put >> all of Emacs to work on that data, just as you can >> put all of Emacs to (re)produce it. And this can be >> automatized big with no glue in between. Now that >> sounded really advanced but it can be really down >> to Earth things. You will experience the benefits >> of an integrated interface with common input >> methods and documentation/configuration very soon >> if you didn't already. > > Emanuel puts it well; that sort of integrated > interface and the ability to put emacs tools to use > on my bash output has served me many, many times. Thanks for the compliment. You know what they say: a great Useneter always have one last great post left in his tank... Yes, integration is one of the top three or four benefits of Emacs. To me, it is the most enjoyable with mail/Usenet (Gnus), then the web (Emacs-w3m), and only then manpages and the shell. But it depends what you do, of course, where you are the most benefited. > It's hard for me to go back to a "dumb terminal" (to > use the term ironically) now... Indeed, you never want to take a step back from what you have achieved. And that can be a problem whenever you cannot decide what to use... (a "problem" as in frustration) Uncanny, by the way, your mention of a "dumb terminal"! Just before I read your post I did a gnuplot .gpi file and added a 'set terminal dumb' line for fast ASCII-only checks. Speaking of gnuplot, I had to to get gnuplot-mode from MELPA - that was super easy, but why isn't such a basic mode included in vanilla Emacs, to offer font lock, indentation, and invocation? For the few of you who don't know gnuplot this can serve as an introduction [1] - the Makefile got a bit complicated, but it isn't anything a computer literate person cannot decipher in zero time. Gnuplot is great and can be used not just for techno-techno-science but for writing, journalism, and plain cool facts just as well. It should definitely be associated with Emacs from the holster in all ways possible, is what I think. [1] http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/hs-linux/docs/report/pics/plot -- underground experts united