Rule of thumb for the choice of key notation?

Rule of thumb for the choice of key notation?

[Alexander Shukaev]

Hello,

I'm still confused about which key notation to prefer when doing
personal configurations as well as when remapping defaults.  In
particular, should I prefer <return> to RET or vice versa (the same
about <tab> vs. TAB, etc.)?   Similarly, should I prefer <backtab> or
S-TAB for personal configurations?

Let me give you an example where I found problems:

(global-set-key (kbd "RET") #'newline-and-indent)     ; Not `<return>'!
(global-set-key (kbd "TAB") #'indent-for-tab-command) ; Not `<tab>'!

(global-set-key (kbd "<escape>") #'keyboard-quit) ; Not `ESC'!

that is only this way those commands would be bound as expected; the
opposite variants will not work at all.  Why?

It looks like there is no consistency...  Personally, I would prefer
to use angle brackets notation everywhere as it looks more friendly to
read but it seems like it just does not work sometimes.

Another problem is that C-m is RET, C-i is TAB and so on.  Does this
key dualism apply to angle bracket notation in the similar way?  Is
there no way to separate those in both GUI and terminal Emacs (without
dirty hacks of chained remapping)?

Finally, there exists <S-tab> to <backtab> mapping by default but there is no

(define-key function-key-map (kbd "<S-C-tab>") (kbd "<C-backtab>"))

Why?

Thanks,
Alexander

Re: Rule of thumb for the choice of key notation?

[Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo]

Alexander Shukaev writes:

> Another problem is that C-m is RET, C-i is TAB and so on.  Does 
> this key dualism apply to angle bracket notation in the similar 
> way?  Is there no way to separate those in both GUI and terminal 
> Emacs (without dirty hacks of chained remapping)? 
> 
> Finally, there exists <S-tab> to <backtab> mapping by default 
> but there is no 
> 
> (define-key function-key-map (kbd "<S-C-tab>") (kbd 
> "<C-backtab>")) 
> 
> Why?

I think because of the previous paragraph, TAB is the same as C-i, 
so C-TAB is the same as TAB.

-- 
Jorge.

Re: Rule of thumb for the choice of key notation?

[Alexander Shukaev]

>> Finally, there exists <S-tab> to <backtab> mapping by default but there is
>> no
>> (define-key function-key-map (kbd "<S-C-tab>") (kbd "<C-backtab>"))
>> Why?
>
>
> I think because of the previous paragraph, TAB is the same as C-i, so C-TAB
> is the same as TAB.
>

Doesn't look like that here.  In other words,

(define-key function-key-map (kbd "<S-C-tab>") (kbd "<C-backtab>"))

works for me as expected (no conflicts).

Re: Rule of thumb for the choice of key notation?

[Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo]

Alexander Shukaev writes:

>>> Finally, there exists <S-tab> to <backtab> mapping by default 
>>> but there is no (define-key function-key-map (kbd "<S-C-tab>") 
>>> (kbd "<C-backtab>")) Why? 
>>  
>> I think because of the previous paragraph, TAB is the same as 
>> C-i, so C-TAB is the same as TAB. 
>> 
> 
> Doesn't look like that here.  In other words, 
> 
> (define-key function-key-map (kbd "<S-C-tab>") (kbd 
> "<C-backtab>")) 
> 
> works for me as expected (no conflicts).

You are right, at least in the GUI. In the terminal it doesn't 
seem to work.

-- 
Jorge.