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From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: member returns list
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2015 01:39:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oahgbfmp.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.552.1441475739.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> writes:

> Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
>
>> If we stick to `member' (using `equal') vs. `memq'
>> (using `eq'), this renaming of those:
>>
>>     member-equal
>>     member-eq
>>
>> would be seen by some people as more consistent than
>> the actual
>>
>>     member
>>     memq
>
> Why not simply eliminate both and have something like
> (member-test #'eq object list)
>
> Or
> (member-if (lambda (x) (eq object x)) list)?

There were a lot of variants and propositions, amongst all the lisp
dialects.  Then starting from 1984, some interested corporations and
institutes invested a lot of money (in form of salaries to detached
employees), to form a standardization commitee and decide on this all
all similar kinds of discrepancies that made porting lisp programs from
one lisp to the other a PITA. They worked hard, for ten years.  Then
money was exhausted, so they finalized an ANSI Common Lisp standard in
1994.

Therefore nowadays, you write:

  (member element list :test (function eql))
  (member element list :test (function equal))
  (member element list :test (function equalp))
  (member element list :test (function your-own-equivalence-relationship))

or member* in emacs lisp since RMS doesn't want to rejoin the common
community of lispers…

-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__                 http://www.informatimago.com/
“The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a
dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to
keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-05 23:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-01 15:50 To `boundp' or not to `boundp'? Alexander Shukaev
2015-09-01 15:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-01 15:53   ` Alexander Shukaev
2015-09-01 16:42   ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 17:13     ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-09-01 18:00       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]   ` <mailman.331.1441125765.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-01 20:20     ` Barry Margolin
2015-09-01 23:37       ` member returns list (was: Re: To `boundp' or not to `boundp'?) Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02  0:10         ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02  0:27           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02  0:38             ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02  1:17               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02  6:21                 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02 21:20                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]               ` <mailman.370.1441156160.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-03  5:17                 ` member returns list Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-04  0:26                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02 16:45         ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-09-02 21:47           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02 22:09             ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-09-02 22:11             ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02 22:13             ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-09-04  1:03               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-04  6:50                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-09-05 17:35                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-05 17:55                     ` Random832
2015-09-05 18:09                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-05 21:04                         ` Random832
2015-09-06  2:57                           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.552.1441475739.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-05 23:39                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2015-09-06  2:46                         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-09  1:48                           ` Robert Thorpe
2015-09-09  2:44                             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-09  3:19                               ` John Mastro
2015-09-10  0:25                             ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.557.1441507097.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-06 21:20                           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-06 23:33                             ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.598.1441581917.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-06 23:47                               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-07  1:29                                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-07  2:25                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-09  1:44                                   ` Robert Thorpe
2015-09-10  0:23                                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.793.1441844665.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-10  2:01                                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-10  2:32                                         ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                           ` <ECCA0E56-A051-4D38-8CBB-6CE9208BB047@openmailbox.org>
2015-09-11  1:32                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  1:46                                               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                         ` <mailman.797.1441852386.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-10  4:21                                           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-10 18:09                                             ` Alex Kost
2015-09-11  1:01                                               ` Random832
2015-09-11  1:28                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  2:01                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  2:52                                                     ` Random832
     [not found]                                                   ` <mailman.890.1441936900.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-11  2:27                                                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  0:10                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  2:37                                                   ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-09-11  1:03                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  0:57                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  5:42                                               ` tomas
2015-09-12  0:18                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-13  8:12                                                   ` tomas
     [not found]                                               ` <mailman.897.1441950163.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-11 23:29                                                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  0:20                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                   ` <mailman.966.1442016910.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-12  2:01                                                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  3:26                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-13  7:50                                                       ` tomas
2015-09-12  2:03                                                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  2:45                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-12  3:12                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-12  3:31                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                       ` <mailman.972.1442025961.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-12  6:16                                                         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12 23:38                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-13  8:03                                                             ` tomas
2015-09-14  1:31                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                           ` <mailman.1016.1442100597.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-13  0:09                                                             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-13  0:24                                                               ` John Mastro
     [not found]                                                               ` <mailman.1019.1442103883.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-13  4:29                                                                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-16  0:01                                                               ` computer history (was: Re: member returns list) Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                       ` <mailman.978.1442028310.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-12  6:18                                                         ` member returns list Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12 23:56                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                           ` <mailman.1018.1442101697.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-13  0:20                                                             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-14  1:24                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-12  2:04                                                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  3:15                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-12  7:40                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                             ` <mailman.884.1441933051.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-11  2:26                                               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  0:16                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-07  2:38                                 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-07  2:37                             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.502.1441349470.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-04 17:26                   ` Barry Margolin
2015-09-05 17:40                     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02  0:40       ` member (was: Re: To `boundp' or not to `boundp'?) Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.363.1441150201.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-02 16:25         ` member returns list " Barry Margolin
2015-09-02 21:35           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]           ` <mailman.426.1441229773.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-02 22:56             ` Barry Margolin
2015-09-02 23:23               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.368.1441153951.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-03  5:19         ` member Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-04  0:24           ` member Emanuel Berg
     [not found]     ` <<barmar-B5D67F.16201001092015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
2015-09-01 20:42       ` To `boundp' or not to `boundp'? Drew Adams
2015-09-02  2:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-02 15:26   ` Alexander Shukaev
2015-09-02 16:51     ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]     ` <mailman.410.1441212753.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-02 20:00       ` Barry Margolin
     [not found] <mailman.719.1441763081.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-09 15:03 ` member returns list Barry Margolin
2015-09-09 19:44   ` Ted Zlatanov

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