From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: on ``An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp'' Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 00:23:41 +0000 Message-ID: <87oac3vrsi.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <878u385d1h.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454113459 17153 80.91.229.3 (30 Jan 2016 00:24:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 00:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 30 01:24:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aPJKg-0006KO-3D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 01:24:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37109 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aPJKb-0000dn-S0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 19:24:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aPJKR-0000da-Qa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 19:23:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aPJKN-0003Bg-GF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 19:23:51 -0500 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp09.blacknight.com ([46.22.139.14]:54355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aPJKN-0003BM-97 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 19:23:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail05.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.26]) by outbound-smtp09.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 997AD1C197A for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 00:23:42 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: (qmail 4278 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2016 00:23:42 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[109.111.202.234]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 30 Jan 2016 00:23:42 -0000 In-Reply-To: <878u385d1h.fsf@debian.uxu> (message from Emanuel Berg on Fri, 29 Jan 2016 21:46:50 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 46.22.139.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108917 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > focus is 2 - but it should be 1 + 3! (And perhaps it > is, as I haven't read the book.) I think you should install Emacs properly - i.e. with all the Info manuals. You use Emacs intensively, you've used it for a long time and you've learned a lot about it. I didn't know you did all that without reading the Emacs Lisp Intro. That's like doing it with one hand tied behind your back. It also explains odd gaps in your knowledge that we've discussed on this list in the past. My advice is: ditch Debian Emacs and it's policy against info files. Download the source, build it and use that. BR, Robert Thorpe