From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Writing article in italian Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 11:50:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87o8hqwk2v.fsf@gmail.com> References: <83mtxbba54.fsf@gnu.org> <86sg73gtcf.fsf@x201.butler.org> <87sg72wod9.fsf@gmail.com> <24577.27136.867400.608185@mail.eng.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23060"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, steve-humphreys@gmx.com, Leo Butler To: "Gian Uberto Lauri" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 15 11:50:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l0Mgb-0005pZ-16 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 11:50:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44100 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l0Mga-0004LB-3U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 05:50:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l0Mg9-0004KY-Hn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 05:50:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::436]:38405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l0Mg7-0002XQ-Vw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 05:50:05 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id a9so5331325wrt.5 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 02:50:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GM1izPgIjOPzP+dA8x4IODDRjNkDB+9bU2TWQFvv6Z8=; b=ZhoF9YpSepodHsZCwCDCQiP3h+01yA/TtauhsLnkU5uG1UurWPDNHb1madytY3MEI8 vxH5UjZphJS4AOk2YrHuAwZJB6Zlx4ntPa+y886B2gIQ+bnmA1EGLGONAcu/tfoXflmF LpVJzWqtgB+d5Z1tIImmceH3bEK+KjJkVgSbD1rjrVrXUX+zA/JACxBzw0EkvJ9RaXwu 1oT0PEZHCu26AL5ltsq04DJpRCV5YxmRMNGZTcDljtSGP/UDvLsDapH1TQgs/r/GmMp/ 4ZmgwFmuQGAMSzfEdUgQ2bKOUuy9JUwQSj6XCNCLDj37JxvHQs3jjX9pCZkyCNOeZOwF A98A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GM1izPgIjOPzP+dA8x4IODDRjNkDB+9bU2TWQFvv6Z8=; b=HJBrH87zLdDonERamB4Rg71UEP+x8FSAhntZ+IV8sX9xFYejrSiRuBTDPYIlNpo4BL w8/00KvJ/ShAg4mUaHiTxsU5zaAyjdEGsrun9ubi7+K05cmrPcFJ8cEncre7H5Lq4ltz 7IV6Qc5TJQ36hWQB0NVuaoG9o+v7ME+GxTDIPsGFOA4nE/mqFX1gOaqpRwShAYGLF7IT P4ma/NJv7AgfXnecz+v0PSsxveGNGLnThvRVolfLCNA0Mli31qAsmvB3vLOG0gHDwEak 5uO6vqe5gAetndqPV3tzz6mjUZFx43paao2gxpYA1NUBkt72Uwzfx1HUizwMBiwxarHJ V1eA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530hRfnGEcvVB/Jfs2WipqrtYL0X06SaBUzwkMe3uRqVxovX62eB LizMjagml53lTpkMX9ykA9w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw9JgI3AEsDWkbJI7v0QTJzm6m2OYfEmV8Zu1bVs9RLIMrS69/T5KdU5t/fSSZxRQf87dU4/Q== X-Received: by 2002:adf:b1db:: with SMTP id r27mr2635844wra.125.1610707802222; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 02:50:02 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from rltb ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a861:69b6:6aaf:dbd3:8964]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l1sm14961034wrq.64.2021.01.15.02.50.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 15 Jan 2021 02:50:01 -0800 (PST) Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <24577.27136.867400.608185@mail.eng.it> (Gian Uberto Lauri's message of "Fri, 15 Jan 2021 11:10:08 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::436; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x436.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127257 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 11:10:08 +0100, "Gian Uberto Lauri" said: >>>>> "RP" =3D=3D Robert Pluim writes: RP> The C-x 8 method is complete, but somewhat cumbersome. You might RP> prefer using input methods, eg RP> C-\ italian-postfix RP> allows you to type RP> e' RP> and have it automatically be inserted as =C3=A9 saint> The "italian-postfix" is indeed the best solution (using compose= keys saint> is even better IMHO). But if you use it only within Emacs is the= best saint> and more reliable solution. Everyone has their preferences. Note also that along with the C-x 8 map, you also get a set of A- bindings which might be easier to use (A- being ALT). And for yet more options: emacs-28 adds two new input methods, 'compose' and 'iso-translate', which correspond to the X11 Compose and C-x 8 methods, but without a prefix key. Choice is good :-) saint> BTW, all that is good provided you have a keyboard with an easy = to use saint> bacquote character, since most of accents in Italian are grave o= nes. (keyboard-translate ?' ?`) (keyboard-translate ?` ?') (I have no idea what a real Italian keyboard looks like) Robert