* rx expressions
@ 2021-01-31 15:00 steve-humphreys
2021-01-31 16:42 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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From: steve-humphreys @ 2021-01-31 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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When using rx expressions does one need to call
(require 'rx)
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-01-31 15:00 rx expressions steve-humphreys
@ 2021-01-31 16:42 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-31 18:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-02-01 9:49 ` Philip K.
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From: moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2021-01-31 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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steve-humphreys wrote:
> When using rx expressions does one need to call
>
> (require 'rx)
I don't know if you need to do it but it makes sense.
And if you don't, the byte-compiler will say
geh.el:
In end of data:
geh.el:292:1: Warning: the function ‘rx--charset-p’ is not
known to be defined.
Use the byte-compiler for all you Elisp - take your game to
the next level...
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-01-31 15:00 rx expressions steve-humphreys
2021-01-31 16:42 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
@ 2021-01-31 18:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-01-31 18:32 ` steve-humphreys
2021-02-01 9:49 ` Philip K.
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From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-01-31 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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steve-humphreys@gmx.com writes:
> When using rx expressions does one need to call
>
> (require 'rx)
Normally not: `rx' is autoloaded, and calls are expanded to strings at
compile time.
Michael.
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-01-31 18:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2021-01-31 18:32 ` steve-humphreys
2021-01-31 18:53 ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: steve-humphreys @ 2021-01-31 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2021 at 6:26 AM
> From: "Michael Heerdegen" <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: rx expressions
>
> steve-humphreys@gmx.com writes:
>
> > When using rx expressions does one need to call
> >
> > (require 'rx)
>
> Normally not: `rx' is autoloaded, and calls are expanded to strings at
> compile time.
When reading the manual, examples did not use the require command.
> Michael.
>
>
>
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-01-31 18:32 ` steve-humphreys
@ 2021-01-31 18:53 ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-01-31 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: steve-humphreys; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
steve-humphreys@gmx.com writes:
> > > (require 'rx)
> >
> > Normally not: `rx' is autoloaded, and calls are expanded to strings
> > at compile time.
>
> When reading the manual, examples did not use the require command.
Fine.
Michael.
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-01-31 15:00 rx expressions steve-humphreys
2021-01-31 16:42 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-01-31 18:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2021-02-01 9:49 ` Philip K.
2021-02-01 10:01 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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From: Philip K. @ 2021-02-01 9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: steve-humphreys; +Cc: Help Gnu Emacs
steve-humphreys@gmx.com writes:
> When using rx expressions does one need to call
>
> (require 'rx)
I usually add
(eval-when-compile (require 'rx))
so that rx doesn't have to be loaded if it the file is byte-compiled,
but otherwise it's autoloaded (C-h o rx):
rx is an autoloaded Lisp macro in ‘rx.el’.
--
Philip K.
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-02-01 9:49 ` Philip K.
@ 2021-02-01 10:01 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-01 11:27 ` Philip K.
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From: moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2021-02-01 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Philip K. wrote:
> I usually add
>
> (eval-when-compile (require 'rx))
(eval-when-compile (require 'rx))
(rx--empty)
geh.el:
In end of data:
geh.el:294:1: Warning: the function ‘rx--empty’ might not be defined at
runtime.
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-02-01 10:01 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
@ 2021-02-01 11:27 ` Philip K.
2021-02-01 12:10 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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From: Philip K. @ 2021-02-01 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
<help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:
> Philip K. wrote:
>
>> I usually add
>>
>> (eval-when-compile (require 'rx))
>
> (eval-when-compile (require 'rx))
> (rx--empty)
>
> geh.el:
> In end of data:
> geh.el:294:1: Warning: the function ‘rx--empty’ might not be defined at
> runtime.
rx--empty is a function, so it doesn't make sense. I do
eval-when-compile when all I use is the rx macro itself.
--
Philip K.
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-02-01 11:27 ` Philip K.
@ 2021-02-01 12:10 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-02-01 12:19 ` steve-humphreys
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From: moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2021-02-01 12:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Philip K. wrote:
>> (eval-when-compile (require 'rx))
>> (rx--empty)
>>
>> geh.el:
>> In end of data:
>> geh.el:294:1: Warning: the function ‘rx--empty’ might not be defined at
>> runtime.
>
> rx--empty is a function, so it doesn't make sense. I do
> eval-when-compile when all I use is the rx macro itself.
Byte-compiling Elisp almost always makes sense, for
several reasons.
Use
(require 'rx)
so everything is solid from the get-go and you can focus on
the byte-compiler messages that are actually useful, even
interesting to read...
--
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* Re: rx expressions
2021-02-01 12:10 ` moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
@ 2021-02-01 12:19 ` steve-humphreys
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From: steve-humphreys @ 2021-02-01 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: moasenwood; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
It is part of a minor mode I have written, and included the following
code. What do you think?
(eval-when-compile
(setq byte-compile-function-environment
(delq (assq 'crucible-mode byte-compile-function-environment)
byte-compile-function-environment)))
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 at 12:10 AM
> From: "moasenwood--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: rx expressions
>
> Philip K. wrote:
>
> >> (eval-when-compile (require 'rx))
> >> (rx--empty)
> >>
> >> geh.el:
> >> In end of data:
> >> geh.el:294:1: Warning: the function ‘rx--empty’ might not be defined at
> >> runtime.
> >
> > rx--empty is a function, so it doesn't make sense. I do
> > eval-when-compile when all I use is the rx macro itself.
>
> Byte-compiling Elisp almost always makes sense, for
> several reasons.
>
> Use
>
> (require 'rx)
>
> so everything is solid from the get-go and you can focus on
> the byte-compiler messages that are actually useful, even
> interesting to read...
>
> --
> underground experts united
> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
> https://dataswamp.org/~incal
>
>
>
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