From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to justify a line of text in the GUI? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 19:06:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87o7t8um6z.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87h6z12hvt.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17481"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:/1mwYSh8igAdQSfVyq8Qu3dLkEY= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 16 10:13:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ovEU0-0004Nx-2n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 10:13:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ovETT-0006pk-Au; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 04:12:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ov0Kc-0005pV-4w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:06:57 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ov0KV-0008Px-Jp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:06:41 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ov0KR-0001Uh-A1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 19:06:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 04:12:49 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140991 Archived-At: Evan Aad wrote: > Emmanuel, unfortunately you grotesquely misunderstand the > gist of my question. > > To pick up your example of HTML. Suppose you write an HTML > document, and the text editor in which you compose it > displays every other letter in a different size. When viewed > in a web browser the HTML file displays as intended, the > problem is with the text editor used to edit the source > code. You complain about this problem in a mail listing > dedicated to this text editor. You say you'd like all > letters of the source code to have a consistent size. > To which one of the members of the mailing list replies: "It > appears you want the source code to look like it would in > a browser, but when viewed in a browser an HTML file is > never gonna look even remotely the same as the source code, > and you don't want it to." But this is an absurd reply that > completely misses the point. What I mean is they look different because they _are_ different. The editor is optimized, if that is the right word in the case of HTML :), to produce, edit, and debug source, while the compiler is intended to translate and transform the code into something that is useful, the black-boxed end product, i.e. a displayable, interactive web page in the case of the browser compiling (or assembling) the HTML source. Evvan, as long as you regard the webpage and HTML source as one you won't understand this, I think. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal