From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maciek Pasternacki Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs for everything? 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X-Fnord: xefitra X-Face: "z$0S%vIy|*@uf~&cUy(t.|Ww`"[=wFe(FAC->(lhsd_}0Y\^STZ&LL%W~ikh(=7DBY*>LV )*~d, +@xH3!+USJ8tt"etVnco#l:Yg.'1QEoqEb'aft~ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:22311 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:22311 On Setting Orange, The Aftermath 38, 3170 YOLD, Kai Grossjohann wrote: >> Also, I don't like screen(1) eating my C-a which I use frequently to >> jump to beginning of line in shell. After thinking about other >> binding to use, I realised that I use virtually every binding (since >> I learned Emacs I use the same bindings in shell). > > I use ` for screen, `` inserts a single ` character. Works quite well. ...except when you try to paste a shell script from editor/browser/whatever. Before I had ScreenTerm and could safely disable hotkey I also used backtick but strange things happening when pasting textwere annoying. >> So I integrated shell with FVWM (current beta is at >> http://japhy.fnord.org/pub/ScreenTerm, when it'll get more mature >> I'll put it on my home page) so I can control my screen session as >> multi-terminal by window manager. Just in case somebody found it >> useful. > > Cool. Gotta look at that. If you had any suggestions regarding keybindings (they're just `prototype' ones, I use C-Menu (screen's colon command) for almost everything) I'll be glad to hear them. > I started a screen daemon and changed my WM config so that all xterms > attach to the same daemon. This means that the list of shell sessions > and the number of xterms I've got are decoupled. Very useful. I can > just create an xterm on demand to look at a shell session, then close > the xterm and the shell is still there. I prefer to run few screen sessions and have terminal windows independent of each other. Of course I can run the same session in two windows but I like to have my net-related windows (irssi, ekg2, SSH sessions, gnus-agent-batch) in one screen and `development' shells (ones I temporarily use when programming) in second one, not interfering with each other. If I used single screen for everything there'd be too much screen windows for me -- usually I use about 5 screen windows per session; more than 8-9 shells in one screen is just confusing for me. -- __ Maciek Pasternacki [ http://japhy.fnord.org/ ] `| _ |_\ / { -It's possible that people in my life are actually detrimental ,|{-}|}| }\/ to what I'm trying to do right now--And what is it you're trying \/ |____/ to do? -- I'm trying to stay sane. } ( I Feel Sick ) -><-