From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Carmody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:25:21 +0300 Organization: Saunalahti Customer Message-ID: <87mykaueji.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87mykaw8sb.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216741321 3486 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 15:42:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:42:01 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 17:42:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLK0l-0000G4-Mz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:42:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39374 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJzs-0000Sm-GQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:41:52 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!feeder.erje.net!feeder2.news.saunalahti.fi!reader1.news.saunalahti.fi!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uFNa8MXUFXj/Ul2CEAyZFXoSmyQ= Original-Lines: 29 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.143.57.195 Original-X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@saunalahti.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.news.saunalahti.fi 1216740338 83.143.57.195 (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:25:38 EEST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:25:38 EEST Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160464 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55809 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 15:56, Juanma wrote: > >> Well, maybe it's too "Unixy" (if I may), but then remove the "too" because >> I'm in Linux. > > For software, being too ANYTHING is usually a drawback for new users > coming from the complementary set of ANYTHING... > >> When I started >> learning¹ Emacs, I had to learn what is a buffer, and if the manual had been >> s/buffer/workspace/ all along, I would have had to learn what workspace >> means just the same. Same effort, and buffer is easier to pronounce. > > The point is, "workspace" is used more often than "buffer" for the > same concept, so even if that is your experience, it is reasonable to > expect that it'll be different for many other people. But 'workspace' has been used in a window-manager context for longer than any of the modern IDEs that use the term have been around. It also seems that some applications define the workspace to be their entire window, inside which many MDI sub-windows can reside. Both of these uses conflict with a usage where it is synonymous to emacs' use of 'buffer'. Phil -- Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all. -- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration