From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: viper-mode C-[ behavior change in Emacs 24.4 Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 02:20:22 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87mwbmwhix.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87k36uh0de.fsf@debian.uxu> <87wqatuvlt.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407025528 26989 80.91.229.3 (3 Aug 2014 00:25:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 00:25:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 03 02:25:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XDjby-0002dZ-Mw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 02:25:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46293 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XDjby-0001Vo-4N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 20:25:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:LiiM0Um6xU7HU8PfSaNU4wMxaDk= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:206784 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99060 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Isn't it good that he asked on gnu.emacs.help so >> that you can tell him it is a bug so that he can >> report it? > > No, it's just a waste of my time. Of course *now* the OP knows it is a bug, probably he didn't know that when he posted, unless he (very unlikely) was unware of the bug report function. >> Often it is not clear if something is a bug and most > > If something used to work and now fails to work in > your non-released piece of software, then you should > always report it as a bug. Of course, we may reply > "this is explained in the NEWS file", so double check > the NEWS file first. Yes, this is better - general guidelines (or "instructions" downright) what to do - FAQ material (if it isn't there already). Question: "Non-released" software, I suppose that includes the emacs24 (or 24.3+1-4+b1) or GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.12.2) of 2014-06-06 on barber, modified by Debian because I have the same problem, as said. Do you have to get it from the stable Debian repositories for it to be "released"? -- underground experts united