From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 22:23:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87mujnqxfy.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <46f308ff-5a70-8ccc-310b-48167088ff5a@yandex.ru> <87woirsvdb.fsf@telefonica.net> <87sgtfsswd.fsf@telefonica.net> <76f6370c-e8b7-bc59-634c-c48ea7af7f70@yandex.ru> <87lfz7sqb9.fsf@telefonica.net> <874l5vsokw.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v9ybr913.fsf@telefonica.net> <3a1ccc8d-c714-874c-534d-fbd3067e89e8@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="36558"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 15 22:23:48 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0RH-0009MT-Pc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 22:23:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42000 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0RG-0003VS-Mo for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:23:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46897) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0Qt-0003O9-5U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:23:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0Qr-0006hL-RL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:23:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=50554 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0Qr-0006fd-Ki for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:23:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0Qq-0008qN-85 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 22:23:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:F+dIq+MU1E0n6G0LoYc6R4OU/8o= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120421 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 15.05.2019 19:12, Óscar Fuentes wrote: >> I can show you my .emacs.el instead. > > That's not very relevant. > > We are talking about the default bindings and what's best for Emacs > users overall. I'm way less sure than other participants on this thread about what's best for Emacs users overall. And on the CC-Mode C-c C-c subtopic, I put my C++ programmer's hat and wonder how that makes Emacs better for me, appart from disrupting my muscle memory and forcing me to adapt (1). Those improvements on uniformity amount to nothing when you use a mode for serious work. They are nice when read on a blog post promoting Emacs though. 1. I emphasize that I have no problem at all adapting to changes, I'm just providing my point of view about how much of an improvement this specific change would be for somebody that uses CC-Mode on a regular basis.