From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 13:49:03 +0200 Message-ID: <87mtqfc2fk.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <21691570.QVqMGgByyo@galex-713.eu> <878s20dwmf.fsf@zoho.eu> <3329188.T0m1InA4o2@galex-713.eu> <8735s8c7iq.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1905"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:u7AhqpBukx4SzAOaXa3V9Pv/6wU= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 21 13:49:37 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6AjI-0000Ec-2Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 13:49:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55656 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6AjH-0003xY-4X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 07:49:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Aix-0003xK-9h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 07:49:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:59900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Aiv-0001au-OK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 07:49:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Aiu-000AIa-Ej for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 13:49:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131946 Archived-At: Christopher Dimech wrote: > People in Taiwan are chinese who rejected the intrusion of > the chinese communist party, which trampled chinese culture > with brutal communist ideology. Well, yeah, it was an extremely bloody revolution and decade-long civil war that laid waste to the country, the loosing Nationalist side escaped to Taiwan because they lost, since then the mainland China Communist regime has been claiming they want Taiwan back but actually they are happy that ROC brings money and expertise to the Chinese people that actually benefits them as well, indirectly and thru various mazes, but in time yes and they know it; and they are also happy to have a remote enemy (which is protected by the US) so they can drum up nationalism and spend money on their so-called People's Liberation Army (well, "once" perhaps is the word, again depending on who you ask). This army actually beat the US at least to some extent in the Korean War (mainly because of a huge advantage in numbers, which is nothing to be ashamed of BTW, on the contrary it is an excellent way of winning wars that almost _never_ fails) - well, anyway they partly beat the US and _in the 50s_ at that, that was as you know the US time in world history if ever there was one, and you don't do that without popular support - anyway now the Communist ideology and society have left many traces thruout Chinese society but that's it, on the whole it's just another form of capitalism or market economy competition between people and companies and various groups within the ruling burocratic superstructure (well, they have a tradition of that so maybe its their way, heck do I know, remember that in Imperial China the elite DIDN'T rule as one may think, instead ruling was done by a super-educated bureaucracy), it isn't like anywhere else exactly, their own brand of it, but still. Taiwan was once the workshop of the world, then that position went on to China and Taiwan moved on to the most advanced stuff, like instead of doing combination wrenches (spanners) they did torque wrenches, and of course inevitably China will travel the same path and they already do all kinds of advanced consumer goods (e.g., my supposedly/actually (?) Japanese power tools from Ryobi [pronounced "ióbi"] and Hitachi ["stási"] and Casio ["cásio"] wrist watch, all that made in the RRC since forever, almost), and they are also innovative, not on the "old Asia", Europe, or US level per capita but in absolute numbers they are more than competitive, the only area where China isn't a superpower is actually, surprisingly, the military one, where they are out-scooped by both the US and Russia - contrast this to Russia who is a superpower in one and only one sense - the awesome and enormous might of its military establishment: the army (undisputed #1 in the world), the navy, the air force - including not the least the defense industry, basically the only Russian smash hit (no pun intended) on the international market save for natural resources that is good by all means but it makes them a regional power perhaps, certainly not a superpower from that alone, and to be honest their skills on the individual, human level - yeah, it is a poor state, they shouldn't stay at that level with all the human talent they have in such a huge country... So step one for Russia and China to step up their game *drumroll* *fanfare* you guessed it, inprove their English skills, in particular among the educated or to-be educated youth and young adults. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal