From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Would there be a drawback of using the same graphical toolkit on every platform? Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 14:59:51 +0100 Message-ID: <87mtindkiw.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <87h78vfgri.fsf@zoho.eu> <83h78vz17w.fsf@gnu.org> <87czjjfck2.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v8xbyy2t.fsf@codeisgreat.org> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35884"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ATX36WVZ2LYKc019j+FE2q7s2c8= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 19 15:07:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLQOT-00098x-Ck for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 15:07:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56038 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLQOS-0001dD-GO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 09:07:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53150) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLQNj-0001bg-Ce for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 09:06:39 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:53510) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLQNA-0004N0-4T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 09:06:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLQHH-0009Nw-68 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 14:59:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136001 Archived-At: Pankaj Jangid wrote: >>> What's GNU? Gnu's Not Unix! >> >> _That_'s the joke ... >> >> GNU isn't UNIX but it sure is Unix! >> >> As is Linux ... > > GNU utilities do make it appear like that. Otherwise, even > the most basic shell commands are incompatible - > ls/xargs/find... But that's the way you do it. Uniform base, specialized superstructure. See this for tools, machines and other gear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cleat Or in sports. The team is organized with a collective of basic technicians, full-blooded professionals that do the simple things the right way without hesitation, with confidence and force. However an individual player ... can be creative and break the pattern to add variety, the unexpected to their game, maybe sometimes even brilliant and unique attack vectors never heard of until then ... You have to have both! > And Linux is a kernel. ... > If GNU were UNIX, then there was no need for POSIX. POSIX is a family of standards. GNU is an implementation of an operating system concept. So it is up to the people active doing that to what degree what standards should be implemented ... (Note that standards that are not implemented, let's say not even once, that doesn't mean they have no value.) > I am talking purely from the user’s point-of-view. If we > talk about the idea then the gap is even wider. Gaps are wider here and smaller there. It happens all the time and changes all the time. Don't worry about them. And if they get too wide to jump across, let's climb down instead and examine what cool stuff are down there ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal