From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Would there be a drawback of using the same graphical toolkit on every platform? Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 07:28:31 +0100 Message-ID: <87mtikybqo.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <875ypaebhr.fsf@zoho.eu> <878ru6crrk.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27920"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:oXZIV1ycM/xAVaoDWf4cZsxmRTs= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 21 07:29:16 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nM2CB-00073t-KZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 07:29:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38574 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nM2CA-0007IL-GI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 01:29:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59700) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nM2Bf-0007Hp-JZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 01:28:43 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:59156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nM2Bd-0007I9-Fd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 01:28:43 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nM2Ba-0006NS-Gy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 07:28:38 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136103 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >>> (Not a reply to any particular msg in this thread.) >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpers_and_splitters >> >> So there are lumpers and splitters ... >> >> I'm a lumper! > > Lumper wrote the article, now you tend to agree. > People can't be put in two groups. One can only take one > specific narrow context, and judge from a point of view that > one side is lumper oder splitter. But isn't the "lumping" in this context lumping together the proprietary Unix systems (e.g. SunOS/Solaris), the Linux distros and the BSDs into Unix? While the splitting is splitting the Unix into "Unix" and "Unix-like"? > If we are to judge you to be lumper... you are far from > that. You would not be on this mailing list if you would > generally be a lumper. Why? You are pedantic in every > detail, you correct smallest nitpicks just like Drew. That's a method/mindset that is beneficial in computing, you don't have to think "should I fix this?", you just fix everything without thinking at all, pretty soon. I don't know if it can ever go overboard but if so I'll take it and consider it an occupational hazard ... > There is general tendency in Emacs society to go rather > towards "splitters" group. Lumpers don't participate much > in discussions. That comment is so splitter. Why don't you join the lumper's camp and get into the game? > I don't see it that way. Intelligence is very related to > distinction. The higher ability to distinguish, probably > there is more intelligence. Lumpers could or may see that > distinction is not necessary in specific subject, it does > not mean they cannot distinguish. But it could be. What are you kidding, I _understand_ the Unix/Unix-like distinction very well! I'm intelligent enough to do that LOL. No, I disagree that is incorrect not to use it, because I think that distinctions in the world of technology should be made in terms of technology and reflect technology. What some business dudes piled together in their fancy documents shouldn't influence how I, a technology person, refer to technology. dig(1)? > Do you see this letter A and A? Are they same? They look > same but they are not same, as they must be saved in quite > different locations by different impulses which are not > same. Here we see my Lumper instinct, because I think they are both A. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal