From: Manuel Giraud via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: rameiko87@posteo.net
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: smtpmail-send-queued-mail fails with error 504 5.5.2
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:02:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mssu995r.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0808c961e67ac0a8e0295f7cf123755f@posteo.net> (rameiko's message of "Wed, 24 Jan 2024 10:57:39 +0000")
rameiko87@posteo.net writes:
[...]
> when user-mail-address is not set and therefore defaults to
> user@hostmachine (in my case user@fedora), as the description of the
> variable user-mail-address explicitly spells out, then the default
> email address qhen composing a new message somehow ignores this and
> uses user@message-user-fqdn (first thing to fix),
Ok, so I've done the following:
- emacs -Q
- M-: (setq message-user-fqdn "elsewhere")
- M-x message-mail
The "From:" is set to "user@elsewhere" as you, too, observed, right?
This is what you considered to be a bug. I don't know if it is one but
you're right that this is not documented in 'message-user-fqdn' nor
'user-mail-address'.
> which should instead only be reserved for message-id's (as the
> description of this variable says. Does it happen somewhere else too?
> this is the second thing to fix).
How to fix something that we don't know about?
>>> The second question is why the From header is ignored (from the
>>> message as saved in 'queued email folder') when sending with
>>> smtpmail-send-queued-mail. This is really worrisome!
>
> This looks like another bug.
>
>> Yes, this is something else but I imagine that
>> 'smtpmail-send-queued-mail' respect 'user-mail-address'.
>
> so first of all, it probably does, in the sense that in my case it
> uses user@fedora, so message-user-fqdn does not intervene (silver
> lining). But it should use what I decided to set as header, not
> rewrite the headers without warning!
Yes, probably. I'm not queuing mail so I should try it first.
>>> By the way because you ask, the reason why I change the From header
>>> is that I use a variety of different email addresses for the
>>> different affiliations which I have.
>> I do this too and it is just a matter of changing
>> 'user-mail-address'
>> and 'smtpmail-smtp-server'.
>
> No, I don't want to change the variable every time!!
It could be just a command away ;-) but…
> I want to keep that variable for the default address, and change the
> headers as I need.
…fair enough too.
> And anyway, why this discrepancy between queued-sending and
> immediate sending? This I consider another bug, because not doing
> things consistently confuses the user (even not doing the *wrong*
> thing consistently confuses the user)
Yes, this is your second bug then. I'll also try to test with queuing
message.
> smtpmail-smtp-server can stay always the same because mine allows
> spoofing.
Ok.
> I think I will file a few bug reports today
Yes, please do so!
--
Manuel Giraud
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2024-01-21 18:01 smtpmail-send-queued-mail fails with error 504 5.5.2 rameiko87
2024-01-22 13:39 ` Manuel Giraud via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-01-23 16:51 ` rameiko87
2024-01-24 9:07 ` Manuel Giraud via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-01-24 10:57 ` rameiko87
2024-01-24 13:02 ` Manuel Giraud via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2024-01-24 14:26 ` rameiko87
2024-01-24 16:46 ` Manuel Giraud via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
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