Anything setup

Anything setup

[Xavier Maillard]

Hi,

I am willing to test anything (again) but since my last try,
things have really exploded (which is really nice). Now readding
through EmacsWiki pages did not help, really. It is a huge mess
and it is particulary hard to find anything usefull to get
started.

Currently I downloaded both anything.el (dunno if it is the
latest though) and anything-config.el (ditto).

Is there some sort of an anything-distribution where all valid
anything-source would have been "centralized" and tagged as
"working" and "reliable".

Regards,

	Xavier
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Re: Anything setup

[Thierry Volpiatto]

Hi Xavier!

Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I am willing to test anything (again) but since my last try,
> things have really exploded (which is really nice). Now readding
> through EmacsWiki pages did not help, really. It is a huge mess
> and it is particulary hard to find anything usefull to get
> started.
>
> Currently I downloaded both anything.el (dunno if it is the
> latest though) and anything-config.el (ditto).
Thats a good start, then you should go to AnythingSources on emacswiki
and pick some nice sources. Try them one by one, it will be easier to
debug.
Have a look at differents anything-config files you will find on
emacswiki and set up your own anything-config with these files.
Here the extensions i use: (you can find all of them on emacswiki)

anything-complete.el
anything-dabbrev-expand.el
anything-match-plugin.el
anything-delicious.el
anything-mercurial.el
anything-traverse.el (if you don't use traverselisp.el have a look at
anything-grep.el)

> Is there some sort of an anything-distribution where all valid
> anything-source would have been "centralized" and tagged as
> "working" and "reliable".
No (AFAIK).
-- 
A + Thierry Volpiatto
Location: Saint-Cyr-Sur-Mer - France

Re: Anything setup

[Richard Riley]

Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Xavier!
>
> Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am willing to test anything (again) but since my last try,
>> things have really exploded (which is really nice). Now readding
>> through EmacsWiki pages did not help, really. It is a huge mess
>> and it is particulary hard to find anything usefull to get
>> started.
>>
>> Currently I downloaded both anything.el (dunno if it is the
>> latest though) and anything-config.el (ditto).
> Thats a good start, then you should go to AnythingSources on emacswiki
> and pick some nice sources. Try them one by one, it will be easier to
> debug.
> Have a look at differents anything-config files you will find on
> emacswiki and set up your own anything-config with these files.
> Here the extensions i use: (you can find all of them on emacswiki)
>
> anything-complete.el
> anything-dabbrev-expand.el
> anything-match-plugin.el
> anything-delicious.el
> anything-mercurial.el
> anything-traverse.el (if you don't use traverselisp.el have a look at
> anything-grep.el)
>
>> Is there some sort of an anything-distribution where all valid
>> anything-source would have been "centralized" and tagged as
>> "working" and "reliable".
> No (AFAIK).

Some of them could do with some descriptive text - its hard to know what
some of them do. A page of FSF disclaimers but no documentation for the
functions they perform.

Andy Stewart has his config available too which can help get you going:

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/anything-extension.el


-- 
 important and urgent problems of the technology of today are no longer the satisfactions of the primary needs or of archetypal wishes, but the reparation of the evils and damages by the technology of yesterday.  ~Dennis Gabor, Innovations:  Scientific, Technological and Social, 1970

Re: Anything setup

[Xavier Maillard]

   Hi Xavier!

   Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:

   > I am willing to test anything (again) but since my last try,
   > things have really exploded (which is really nice). Now readding
   > through EmacsWiki pages did not help, really. It is a huge mess
   > and it is particulary hard to find anything usefull to get
   > started.
   >
   > Currently I downloaded both anything.el (dunno if it is the
   > latest though) and anything-config.el (ditto).
   Thats a good start, then you should go to AnythingSources on emacswiki
   and pick some nice sources. Try them one by one, it will be easier to
   debug.

Good piece of advice.

   Have a look at differents anything-config files you will find on
   emacswiki and set up your own anything-config with these
   files.

I did but it is really useless and all anything-config files I
read and/or I tried, all failed :/

One thing I find hard is to find useful extensions. I mean what
an extension for abbrev support is useful for in anything context
? 

	Xavier
-- 
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org

Re: Anything setup

[Thierry Volpiatto]

Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:

>    Hi Xavier!
>
>    Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:
>
>    > I am willing to test anything (again) but since my last try,
>    > things have really exploded (which is really nice). Now readding
>    > through EmacsWiki pages did not help, really. It is a huge mess
>    > and it is particulary hard to find anything usefull to get
>    > started.
>    >
>    > Currently I downloaded both anything.el (dunno if it is the
>    > latest though) and anything-config.el (ditto).
>    Thats a good start, then you should go to AnythingSources on emacswiki
>    and pick some nice sources. Try them one by one, it will be easier to
>    debug.
>
> Good piece of advice.
>
>    Have a look at differents anything-config files you will find on
>    emacswiki and set up your own anything-config with these
>    files.
>
> I did but it is really useless and all anything-config files I
> read and/or I tried, all failed :/

Yes thats normal because there is some "require" of other libraries in
these config files.If you have not these lisp files in your load-path,
it will fail.However, you can just to comment out the sources unneeded
in the Sources section (easy to reach if you use eev-mode ==> M-e from index).

I will add today at the beginning of my config
(AnythingConfigThierryVolpiatto.el)
all what is needed to make it working. ;)

At this day with emacs23, all the Sources i wrote in AnythingSources 
are working fine.They are both in my config file and AnythingSources but
the ones you will find in my config file are more up to date.

Rubikitch config is really nice but need a lot of extra dependencies
(some time not compatible for us e.g migemo .. etc..)

There is now also the config of AndyStewart (anything-extensions.el)
that seem to be a selection of differents sources found on
AnythingSources.

> One thing I find hard is to find useful extensions. I mean what
> an extension for abbrev support is useful for in anything context
> ? 
Yes but not only , i launch nearly everything from Anything actually :)
-- 
A + Thierry Volpiatto
Location: Saint-Cyr-Sur-Mer - France

Re: Anything setup

[Xavier Maillard]

Hi Thierry,

   >    Have a look at differents anything-config files you will find on
   >    emacswiki and set up your own anything-config with these
   >    files.
   >
   > I did but it is really useless and all anything-config files I
   > read and/or I tried, all failed :/

   Yes thats normal because there is some "require" of other libraries in
   these config files.If you have not these lisp files in your load-path,
   it will fail.However, you can just to comment out the sources unneeded
   in the Sources section (easy to reach if you use eev-mode ==> M-e from index).

Wow ! Another eev user ?! :)

   I will add today at the beginning of my config
   (AnythingConfigThierryVolpiatto.el)
   all what is needed to make it working. ;)

Nice. Thank you.

   At this day with emacs23, all the Sources i wrote in AnythingSources 
   are working fine.They are both in my config file and AnythingSources but
   the ones you will find in my config file are more up to date.

   Rubikitch config is really nice but need a lot of extra dependencies
   (some time not compatible for us e.g migemo .. etc..)

Too much dependencies ...

   > One thing I find hard is to find useful extensions. I mean what
   > an extension for abbrev support is useful for in anything context
   > ? 
   Yes but not only , i launch nearly everything from Anything actually :)

It would be wonderful if it could do something else. For example,
for buffers, it could be interesting to have the same features
offered in C-x b -ie. mark several buffers, kill multiple
buffers, etc.

Still, you did not answer to my question: what are you doing with
anything and abbrev ? What can it be useful for ?

	Xavier
-- 
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org

Re: Anything setup

[Thierry Volpiatto]

Hi Xavier!

Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi Thierry,
>
>    >    Have a look at differents anything-config files you will find on
>    >    emacswiki and set up your own anything-config with these
>    >    files.
>    >
>    > I did but it is really useless and all anything-config files I
>    > read and/or I tried, all failed :/
>
>    Yes thats normal because there is some "require" of other libraries in
>    these config files.If you have not these lisp files in your load-path,
>    it will fail.However, you can just to comment out the sources unneeded
>    in the Sources section (easy to reach if you use eev-mode ==> M-e from index).
>
> Wow ! Another eev user ?! :)
Yes i am a fan of eev, if you want to build similar index in your files,
have a look at the eev page on emacswiki, and use the anything source
for eev links.

>    I will add today at the beginning of my config
>    (AnythingConfigThierryVolpiatto.el)
>    all what is needed to make it working. ;)
>
> Nice. Thank you.
>
>    At this day with emacs23, all the Sources i wrote in AnythingSources 
>    are working fine.They are both in my config file and AnythingSources but
>    the ones you will find in my config file are more up to date.
>
>    Rubikitch config is really nice but need a lot of extra dependencies
>    (some time not compatible for us e.g migemo .. etc..)
>
> Too much dependencies ...
>
>    > One thing I find hard is to find useful extensions. I mean what
>    > an extension for abbrev support is useful for in anything context
>    > ? 
>    Yes but not only , i launch nearly everything from Anything actually :)
>
> It would be wonderful if it could do something else. For example,
> for buffers, it could be interesting to have the same features
> offered in C-x b -ie. mark several buffers, kill multiple
> buffers, etc.
(You mean C-x C-b i think) 
If you try my source to manage buffers, i think you will find it useful:

Especially to kill buffer, you can kill without quitting anything, so
it's very fast to kill buffers.(C-u C-z)

If you put your mouse over a buffer entry, the complete path of this
(file) buffer is displayed.

The directories have a different color (see screenshot on
AnythingSources)

Marking buffer and providing actions on these buffers is not implemented
yet.

I think i also modify `anything-type-attributes', verify that before
using my buffer source.

> Still, you did not answer to my question: what are you doing with
> anything and abbrev ? What can it be useful for ?

I use anything-dabbrev-expand.el (need a ruby install on your system)
it is bind to M-/ here.(search in all buffers if it don't find in the
current buffer)

anything-complete.el is also very nice, i use always that for completions.


Also :
for a better experience on anything, think to use
anything-set-source-filter.(you have a section at the end of my file)
That avoid to launch all sources when you search something.
 
-- 
A + Thierry Volpiatto
Location: Saint-Cyr-Sur-Mer - France