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From: Udyant Wig <udyant.wig@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Etymology of `visiting' files
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 11:07:36 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lh06bizj.fsf@rudiments.goosenet.in> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87invbmkfg.fsf@lifelogs.com

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> The term "visiting" does not show up in a 1978 guide to Emacs (but
> maybe it was already in use):
> https://web.archive.org/web/20110723033542/http://www.burlingtontelecom.net/~ashawley/gnu/emacs/doc/emacs-1978.html#Basic-File_002dHandling-Commands

Thanks for the link.  I was unaware of this one.

> It shows up in 1981, in the RMS paper on Emacs:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html

I had checked this paper and also the Emacs manual for TWENEX users
(AIM-555).  Both mention `visiting' but include no rationale for the
choice.  Perhaps the technical meaning (of `visiting') was sufficiently
similar to regular English usage that it did not seem to need
explanation.

> Either way, I think it predates modern CUA standards, which emerged in
> the late 80's, and which AFAIK set down the File menu (with Quit and
> Open items) consistently.

IIRC, CUA came (long) after various Emacsen were written and in use; it
was mostly an effort to standardize DOS applications.  The Wikipedia
article says as much and lists a number of IBM documents beginning 1987.

<URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Common_User_Access>

> HTH
> Ted

It did.

-- 
Udyant Wig


  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-09  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-08  9:54 Etymology of `visiting' files Udyant Wig
2016-08-08 10:53 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2016-08-08 12:36   ` Yuri Khan
2016-08-08 12:37   ` Narendra Joshi
2016-08-08 12:48   ` Florian v. Savigny
2016-08-09  5:17   ` Udyant Wig
2016-08-08 13:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-08-09  5:37   ` Udyant Wig [this message]
2016-08-09 15:37     ` Barry Margolin
2016-08-10  9:24       ` Etymology of `visiting' files, and for that matter, of `finding' them Florian v. Savigny
2016-08-08 19:36 ` Etymology of `visiting' files Robert Thorpe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-08-09  6:42 Udyant Wig

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