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* What's twiddle in emacs-goodies pacakage ?
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@ 2017-02-20 17:00 ` chaouche yacine
  2017-02-20 19:01   ` Drew Adams
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From: chaouche yacine @ 2017-02-20 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Hello,
My linux distribution comes with an emacs-goodies-el package. It lists twiddle as : "mode line hacks to keep you awake;" I tried M-x twiddle-start on the command line but I don't understand what this does. I am curious to know what's this for ? 


-- Yassine.



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* RE: What's twiddle in emacs-goodies pacakage ?
  2017-02-20 17:00 ` What's twiddle in emacs-goodies pacakage ? chaouche yacine
@ 2017-02-20 19:01   ` Drew Adams
  2017-02-21  2:52   ` Michael Heerdegen
  2017-02-21  6:10   ` Glenn Morris
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2017-02-20 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: chaouche yacine, help-gnu-emacs

> My linux distribution comes with an emacs-goodies-el package. It lists
> twiddle as : "mode line hacks to keep you awake;" I tried M-x twiddle-start
> on the command line but I don't understand what this does. I am curious to
> know what's this for ?

Are you awake now?  If so, it must be working.

(Sorry, bad joke.  I can't help with the real question.
Hopefully someone else can.)



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* Re: What's twiddle in emacs-goodies pacakage ?
  2017-02-20 17:00 ` What's twiddle in emacs-goodies pacakage ? chaouche yacine
  2017-02-20 19:01   ` Drew Adams
@ 2017-02-21  2:52   ` Michael Heerdegen
  2017-02-21  6:10   ` Glenn Morris
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2017-02-21  2:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: chaouche yacine; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

chaouche yacine <yacinechaouche@yahoo.com> writes:

> Hello, My linux distribution comes with an emacs-goodies-el
> package. It lists twiddle as : "mode line hacks to keep you awake;" I
> tried M-x twiddle-start on the command line but I don't understand
> what this does. I am curious to know what's this for ?

In my version of emacs-goodies-el there is a bug in
`twiddle-frob-mode-line-format'.  When I evaluate

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun twiddle-frob-mode-line-format ()
  (let* ((format (default-value 'mode-line-format))
         ;; XEmacs 19.14 has "-%-" as the last elt by default.
         (end (or (member "%-" format)
                  (member "-%-" format))))
    (cond (end
           (setcdr end (cons (car end) (cdr end)))
           (setcar end 'twiddle-mode-string))
          (t (nconc format '(twiddle-mode-string))))))
#+end_src

(I changed the last line) after loading the package and hit M-x
twiddle-start, at least something happens, where "something" is
different from "nothing" after all (I get a spinning bar in the
mode-line).

I guess this package is not so super useful for interactive usage.


Michael.



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* Re: What's twiddle in emacs-goodies pacakage ?
  2017-02-20 17:00 ` What's twiddle in emacs-goodies pacakage ? chaouche yacine
  2017-02-20 19:01   ` Drew Adams
  2017-02-21  2:52   ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2017-02-21  6:10   ` Glenn Morris
  2017-02-21  8:33     ` chaouche yacine
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2017-02-21  6:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: chaouche yacine; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org


As a not very helpful comment, I'll say that IMO the Debian
emacs-goodies package is mainly just a collection of very old stuff,
much of which may not work any more. Unless you know that you actually
need it, I would just apt-get purge it, because all it's likely to do is
complicate upgrades of the installed Emacs package (due to the way
Debian handles that). Ref eg this 4 year old report

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705059



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* Re: What's twiddle in emacs-goodies pacakage ?
  2017-02-21  6:10   ` Glenn Morris
@ 2017-02-21  8:33     ` chaouche yacine
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: chaouche yacine @ 2017-02-21  8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Thanks, everybody. I don't know what I was expecting...
-- Yassine.



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