melpa website and eww

melpa website and eww

[Eric S Fraga]

Hello all,

Does nobody else find it frustrating that the web site for melpa
packages cannot be read from within Emacs (i.e. using eww)?  It's one of
the few sites I visit with some frequency that requires me to leave
Emacs and start Firefox (or equivalent).  The only other site I need to
do this for is my bank...

Just ranting, I guess. ;-)

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.6 on Debian bullseye/sid

Re: melpa website and eww

[Amin Bandali]

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Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> Hello all,
>
> Does nobody else find it frustrating that the web site for melpa
> packages cannot be read from within Emacs (i.e. using eww)?  It's one of
> the few sites I visit with some frequency that requires me to leave
> Emacs and start Firefox (or equivalent).  The only other site I need to
> do this for is my bank...
>
> Just ranting, I guess. ;-)

Count me in.  Though, my criticism/frustration is not particularly
towards a small number of sites but rather the current state of the
entire web ecosystem and ever-increasing JS bloat.

As for melpa.org specifically, I've been using GNU Guix as my package
manager for Emacs and other system packages for a good while now, and
before that I used straight.el for Emacs packages, so I haven't had to
deal with individual package archives and their sites for a couple years
now. :-)

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Re: melpa website and eww

[Eric S Fraga]

On Thursday, 20 Feb 2020 at 12:00, Amin Bandali wrote:
> Count me in.  Though, my criticism/frustration is not particularly
> towards a small number of sites but rather the current state of the
> entire web ecosystem and ever-increasing JS bloat.

Yes, I agree completely, and partly why I like using eww to avoid all
the bloat as much as possible.

With respect to melpa, I just find it a little ironic...

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.6 on Debian bullseye/sid

Re: melpa website and eww

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:38, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Does nobody else find it frustrating that the web site for melpa
> packages cannot be read from within Emacs (i.e. using eww)?  It's one of
> the few sites I visit with some frequency that requires me to leave
> Emacs and start Firefox (or equivalent).  The only other site I need to
> do this for is my bank...

Even the MELPA site can use WCAG as guidelines for accessibility.

> Just ranting, I guess. ;-)

Why not push in that direction ?


Jean-Christophe Helary
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http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune

Re: melpa website and eww

[Jude DaShiell]

Have you got:
(setq gnutls-algorithm-priority "NORMAL:-VERS-TLS1.3")
in your .emacs file?
If not, maybe try adding that and see if eww can read the site.

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:38:33
> From: Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: melpa website and eww
>
> Hello all,
>
> Does nobody else find it frustrating that the web site for melpa
> packages cannot be read from within Emacs (i.e. using eww)?  It's one of
> the few sites I visit with some frequency that requires me to leave
> Emacs and start Firefox (or equivalent).  The only other site I need to
> do this for is my bank...
>
> Just ranting, I guess. ;-)
>
>

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Re: melpa website and eww

[Eric S Fraga]

On Friday, 21 Feb 2020 at 12:24, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Have you got:
> (setq gnutls-algorithm-priority "NORMAL:-VERS-TLS1.3")
> in your .emacs file?
> If not, maybe try adding that and see if eww can read the site.

Thank you for the suggestion.  However, the problem is not that I cannot
access/read the site but that the site uses Javascript to generate much
(all in some cases) of what it displays.  eww does not support
Javascript.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.6 on Debian bullseye/sid

Re: melpa website and eww

[Jude DaShiell]

The only appropriate use for javascript on websites is behind-the-scenes
housekeeping.  Any site that works like melpa.org limits itself to
edbrowse and other graphical browsers.  Nobody ought to ever know
javascript is used on a website unless they search the source code for
the web page.

On Sun, 23 Feb 2020, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 12:08:43
> From: Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: melpa website and eww
>
> On Friday, 21 Feb 2020 at 12:24, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > Have you got:
> > (setq gnutls-algorithm-priority "NORMAL:-VERS-TLS1.3")
> > in your .emacs file?
> > If not, maybe try adding that and see if eww can read the site.
>
> Thank you for the suggestion.  However, the problem is not that I cannot
> access/read the site but that the site uses Javascript to generate much
> (all in some cases) of what it displays.  eww does not support
> Javascript.
>
>

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Re: melpa website and eww

[Eric S Fraga]

On Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 13:11, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> The only appropriate use for javascript on websites is behind-the-scenes
> housekeeping.  Any site that works like melpa.org limits itself to
> edbrowse and other graphical browsers.  

+1


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Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.6 on Debian bullseye/sid