From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: caching message headers? Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:29:39 -0700 Message-ID: <87lfheefq4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87imclnqsz.fsf@Kittu.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87ft7ngbrv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wo0ytwy5.fsf@Kittu.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38839"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: wgreenhouse@tilde.club, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ozhap Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 01:30:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHEyC-000A1E-5d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 01:30:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52192 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHEyB-0007dy-7s for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54438) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHExs-0007dn-KM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:44260 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHExq-0000wX-H7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7568DFA095; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 23:29:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1599953381; bh=+GuULc2sU3lzU1mN6x/5IKqVpey6JeheEsL+EkMIICo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=eUIlFjR0UHQ9I+9yivpdd7pFPyjIRFd430tMMhrIty6VS47VVsda8Hvpp0kZ8EM/1 5rQ1Uh+v8cfD2S0rBlcRlCR7hB3mtZS4sZuoNoICYubrXGQ0Qe5yYPlD3d89iL9oCh j2kmFlZbj3pGQi8Hv9ku3kaUaU6oKWM1/Iq0h9gQ= In-Reply-To: <87wo0ytwy5.fsf@Kittu.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (Ozhap's message of "Sun, 13 Sep 2020 04:38:34 +0530") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=52.70.2.18; envelope-from=eric@ericabrahamsen.net; helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/12 19:29:43 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124041 Archived-At: Ozhap writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Ozhap writes: >> >>>>> =E2=80=9CIf I read an article while plugged, do they get entered into= the=20 >>>>> Agent?=E2=80=9D >>>>> >>>>> *No*. If you want this behavior, add=20 >>>>> =E2=80=98gnus-agent-fetch-selected-article=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98gnus-= select-article-hook=E2=80=99. >>> >>>> That Info page could be more explicit that `gnus-agent-cache' means th= at >>>> articles *will* be added to the agent as they are read. >>> >>> That's how it stands now, but in info '(gnus)Agent as Cache' it says: >>> >>> "..Gnus normally only downloads *headers* once, and stores them in the >>> Agent" >>> >>> "Articles are *not* cached in the Agent by default though (that would >>> potentially consume lots of disk space), but if you have *already >>> downloaded an article into the Agent*, Gnus will not download the >>> article from the server again but use the locally stored copy instead." >>> >>> I did some digging, and this behaviour was changed due to bug#8502 where >>> Lars concludes (erroneously, on the face of it): >>> >>>> Let's see... caching... so if you're online (in an agentised group) >>>> and select an article, you want the article to be saved in the Agent >>>> directory? That sounds eminently reasonable, and I thought that was >>>> supposed to happen, but I can't find any code for doing that... hm... >>>> Nope. >>> >>> Ref: >>> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D8502 >> >> If I were you I would do this up as a proper bug report. Lars is now an >> Emacs maintainer, so he'll be obliged to look at it :) >> >> One way or another there is a mismatch between documentation, >> customization options, and actual observed behavior. I think if you can >> make it clear what that mismatch is, we stand a good chance of getting >> it fixed. > > Here you go. I think I did good :) > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D43356 I saw it, I agree it's good!