From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Placement of list within an interactive clause Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 13:52:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87les8ch9t.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38602"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:JPu8ViPj5zSSbxXXEbQsrZd/epg= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 01 13:54:54 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oIU0c-0009qz-FA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2022 13:54:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43866 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oIU0b-0003a2-FH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2022 07:54:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oITyk-0002yw-Ly for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2022 07:52:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:45550) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oITyi-00018H-HA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2022 07:52:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oITye-00072j-NS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2022 13:52:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138714 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: > However, I have explained in the above example of mine that > such input may be provided in the function itself. And it > looks to me that it is better handled that way than through > `interactive' declaration. Cases that can't be handled by the ARG-DESCRIPTOR argument can be handled with Lisp, if so the best place for that is within the `interactive' form ... > So this is the way to go: > > (defun my-fun-2 (&optional name) > (interactive) > (let ((name (or name (read-from-minibuffer "Name: ")))) > (message "Hello %s" name))) Here it is better to make the argument non-optional, i.e. mandatory from Lisp, and interactively like this (interactive "sName: ") > That means, when there is declaration (interactive), that > function becomes accessible through M-x invokation, and it > may be bound to a key. Yes, it becomes a "command". I don't know if I like this solution TBH, I think all functions should be callable from everywhere and make sense everywhere, called in whatever way they might ... Dutch total football, if you like ... > Function `interactive' DOES NOT make function "interactive" > in the other contexts in English language, there is special > meaning in the Emacs Lisp context. Programming meaning is > simply not same to English context. Programming should always be in English but it isn't English LOL :D -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal