From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sacha Chua Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Holy Wars redux: w3 vs. emacs-w3m Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:20:57 +0800 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87k7js40g6.fsf@sachac.linuxboxen.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036507006 15375 80.91.224.249 (5 Nov 2002 14:36:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1894ot-0003z8-00 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:36:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1894pI-0002We-00; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:37:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 1894iQ-00016t-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 1894iM-00015Q-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:30:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [202.8.224.5] (helo=mail.mydestiny.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1893kM-00052x-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from sachac (unknown [202.8.240.25]) by mail.mydestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C7F241A09 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:28:15 +0800 (PHT) Original-Received: by sachac (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B7F107D6B; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:20:57 +0800 (PHT) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (happy@vole.com's message of "04 Nov 2002 19:41:23 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3309 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3309 happy@vole.com (mr.sparkle) writes: > I found w3 to be sloooooow. emacs-w3m is reasonably fast and it > renders html nicely. I use emacs-w3m as the browser for html files in > dired and I have no complaints so far. I briefly checked out ewb (Emacs Web Browser? I think it's on EmacsWiki), but couldn't get it to run easily. I actually sort of like Emacs/w3 in console mode (stops it from trying to render graphics and stuff), although the default colors seem to suck when on a light-on-dark terminal, so I defined my own CSS and forced its use. It's actually quite usable, although rendering is slooooooow. I wonder how that can be improved? I'm fine with not having tables displayed, although I'd like to be able to navigate through them with keystrokes and manipulate them with functions. -- Sacha Chua - 4 BS CS Ateneo geekette interests: emacs, gnu/linux, wearables, teaching compsci