From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacsclient over ssh Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:47:19 -0500 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87k530538o.fsf@newsguy.com> References: <87r5x9g780.wl%anselm.helbig+news2009@googlemail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1245905311 28107 80.91.229.12 (25 Jun 2009 04:48:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:48:31 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 25 06:48:23 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MJgsn-0004Wt-Ok for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:48:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51964 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MJgsn-0006es-6i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MJgsL-0006ee-CJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:47:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MJgsG-0006eA-EQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:47:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33274 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MJgsG-0006e7-AV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:47:48 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:48791 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MJgsF-0000hX-Qi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:47:48 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MJgs9-0006yr-9o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:47:41 +0000 Original-Received: from c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([98.215.178.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:47:41 +0000 Original-Received: from reader by c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:47:41 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 67 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:t1hPWTWiUXKAGi39q9vzHLVORmw= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:65492 Archived-At: Anselm Helbig writes: > Hi! > >> At any rate a console emacs arrived at that way is a pain in the but >> to use. Its fine for normal file/directory work... but I want to >> access an emacs/gnus session running on the remote emacs-server. And I >> want the emacsclient to run in X on the localhost. > > A console emacs doesn't have to be so bad. >From linux local to linux remote... its not bad. Or over putty. but when solaris is involved its orders of magnitude worse. there is much more than the erase issue. > - the "backspace invokes help"-issue goes away after "stty erase '^?'" > - you can get more than 16 colors on the console in xterm or rxvt, see > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XTermColors The colors would have to be endlessly tweaked to get something close to what I use in X... I know because I've done it a few times. > - xterm-mouse-mode allows you to use your favourite pointing device There is no mouse in console mode on solaris. > I have to admit that you don't get a tool bar and the menu looks a bit > ugly. But then, who needs these, anyway? 8-) I don't use those even in X. > The primary advantage of using emacs in a remote terminal instead of > forwarded via X is speed - forwarding an X client over a WAN might > feel sluggish. This is strictly a local home lan...hard wired and with gigabit NICS. > Maybe you should consider using a local emacs and TRAMP to access > your remote files. Well, like I mentioned in OP.. I want to be able to tap into a gnus session running on the remote...You can't do that with tramp, so its not really an issue of access and editing files... I want to read news and mail and not have to fight with several things I'm used to having. M-x work without using Esc. I don't have to hold down the control key and hit h to backspace to the left. Various other aggravations too. Linux to linux in console mode is fine .. I even prefer it for lots of things. But throw Solaris into the mix... and its just more than I want to dick around with... and don't really want to fuss with everything to get it to work like I'm used to. Solaris developers.. have never put much time into the console mode... its still like it was in the 80s on linux. I just want to pull that session across in X and everything is hunky dorey. No endless fixes involved. The suggestion about editing sshd_config was all it took. I'd just forgotten to do that.. and where etc. When I just want to edit files across a real wan... not read News across a home lan.. I'm good with vi or vim. (ducks for asbestos undies)