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From: Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacsclient over ssh
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:47:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k530538o.fsf@newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87r5x9g780.wl%anselm.helbig+news2009@googlemail.com

Anselm Helbig <anselm.helbig+news2009@googlemail.com> writes:

> Hi!
>
>> At any rate a console emacs arrived at that way is a pain in the but
>> to use. Its fine for normal file/directory work... but I want to
>> access an emacs/gnus session running on the remote emacs-server. And I
>> want the emacsclient to run in X on the localhost.
>
> A console emacs doesn't have to be so bad. 

From linux local to linux remote... its not bad.  Or over putty.
but when solaris is involved its orders of magnitude worse.

there is much more than the erase issue.

>   - the "backspace invokes help"-issue goes away after "stty erase '^?'"

>   - you can get more than 16 colors on the console in xterm or rxvt, see
>     http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XTermColors

The colors would have to be endlessly tweaked to get something close
to what I use in X... I know because I've done it a few times.

>   - xterm-mouse-mode allows you to use your favourite pointing device

There is no mouse in console mode on solaris.

> I have to admit that you don't get a tool bar and the menu looks a bit
> ugly. But then, who needs these, anyway? 8-)

I don't use those even in X.

> The primary advantage of using emacs in a remote terminal instead of
> forwarded via X is speed - forwarding an X client over a WAN might
> feel sluggish.

This is strictly a local home lan...hard wired and  with gigabit NICS.

> Maybe you should consider using a local emacs and TRAMP to access
> your remote files. 

Well, like I mentioned in OP.. I want to be able to tap into a gnus
session running on the remote...You can't do that with tramp, so its
not really an issue of access and editing files... I want to read news
and mail and not have to fight with several things I'm used to having.
M-x work without using Esc.  I don't have to hold down the control
key and hit h to backspace to the left.

Various other aggravations too.

Linux to linux in console mode is fine .. I even prefer it for lots of
things.  But throw Solaris into the mix... and its just more than I
want to dick around with... and don't really want to fuss with everything
to get it to work like I'm used to.

Solaris developers.. have never put much time into the console
mode... its still like it was in the 80s on linux.

I just want to pull that session across in X and everything is hunky
dorey.  No endless fixes involved.

The suggestion about editing sshd_config was all it took.  I'd just
forgotten to do that.. and where etc. 

When I just want to edit files across a real wan... not read News
across a home lan.. I'm good with vi or vim. (ducks for asbestos undies)





  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-25  4:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.1165.1245793203.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-06-23 22:09 ` emacsclient over ssh Richard Riley
2009-06-23 23:13   ` suvayu ali
     [not found]   ` <mailman.1178.1245818812.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-06-24 10:40     ` Richard Riley
2009-06-24  7:49 ` Tim X
2009-06-24  8:32 ` Josef G. Bauer
2009-06-24 12:13 ` Anselm Helbig
2009-06-25  4:47   ` Harry Putnam [this message]
2009-06-25  7:28     ` tomas
2009-06-25 11:38       ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]     ` <mailman.1230.1245914729.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-06-25 11:13       ` Richard Riley
2009-06-25 12:20         ` tomas
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1238.1245932253.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-06-25 12:47           ` Richard Riley
2009-06-25 12:49             ` Richard Riley
2009-06-23 21:39 Harry Putnam

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