* matching parenthesis and guillemets
@ 2013-06-13 12:34 henry atts
2013-06-13 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: henry atts @ 2013-06-13 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
In text-mode when typing guillemts to indicate direct speech I always
get this message about non matching parenthesis:
`No matching parenthesis found'
Yes, I could disable it with `blink-matching-paren' or set
`show-paren-mode' to nil. But because this affects emacs' global
behaviour this is not what I want.
Why in the first place does emacs think he has to tell me about matching
or not matching guillemets - they are no braquets actually.
And in fact emacs treats the guillemets the wrong way up, the above
message is displayed on the opening guillemet (») and not on a single
closing one («) with a missing match.
henry
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* Re: matching parenthesis and guillemets
2013-06-13 12:34 matching parenthesis and guillemets henry atts
@ 2013-06-13 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-13 18:57 ` henry atts
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-06-13 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> And in fact emacs treats the guillemets the wrong way up, the above
> message is displayed on the opening guillemet (») and not on a single
> closing one («) with a missing match.
Right. Frenchmen disagree. How 'bout doing the following:
(modify-syntax-entry ?« ")»" (standard-syntax-table))
(modify-syntax-entry ?» "(«" (standard-syntax-table))
Emacs should probably not take sides in this historic battle and just
give those chars a non-paren syntax by default.
Stefan
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* Re: matching parenthesis and guillemets
2013-06-13 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-06-13 18:57 ` henry atts
2013-06-13 19:23 ` Didier Verna
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From: henry atts @ 2013-06-13 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> And in fact emacs treats the guillemets the wrong way up, the above
>> message is displayed on the opening guillemet (») and not on a single
>> closing one («) with a missing match.
>
> Right. Frenchmen disagree. How 'bout doing the following:
>
> (modify-syntax-entry ?« ")»" (standard-syntax-table))
> (modify-syntax-entry ?» "(«" (standard-syntax-table))
Great! Works fine.
> Emacs should probably not take sides in this historic battle and just
> give those chars a non-paren syntax by default.
+1
> Stefan
Thanks,
henry
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* Re: matching parenthesis and guillemets
2013-06-13 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-13 18:57 ` henry atts
@ 2013-06-13 19:23 ` Didier Verna
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From: Didier Verna @ 2013-06-13 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> Emacs should probably not take sides in this historic battle and just
> give those chars a non-paren syntax by default.
Or provide a french-spacing option that would take care of this,
sentence-end-double-space, colon-double-space and whatnot.
--
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@ 2013-06-13 21:11 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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From: Pascal J. Bourguignon @ 2013-06-13 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Didier Verna <didier@didierverna.net> writes:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
>> Emacs should probably not take sides in this historic battle and just
>> give those chars a non-paren syntax by default.
>
> Or provide a french-spacing option that would take care of this,
> sentence-end-double-space, colon-double-space and whatnot.
And preferably, by detecting whether the text before is in French or in
English. (And similarly for other languages and typographical rules).
--
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You can take the lisper out of the lisp job, but you can't take the lisp out
of the lisper (; -- antifuchs
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