From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:04:02 +0100 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87k32caad9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <873891sgaw.fsf@debian.uxu> <87oarp9sk4.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417367425 15374 80.91.229.3 (30 Nov 2014 17:10:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:10:25 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 30 18:10:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xv80p-0005Si-TX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:10:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51046 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xv80p-0000bz-BP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 12:10:19 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Trace: individual.net POQnqBDyYdYur0NBr0A8uQgOFkkEsLGrhz2aqrWQWJugIUejsO Cancel-Lock: sha1:NjMzZmE5OTA0YjA3NDFiOTJmNjU3YjZiMjAwMzMxNmJmMTdlNDRjNw== sha1:UlIZ/HGs+G93aaFkNcnjjT6J/xs= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:209039 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101318 Archived-At: Dan Espen writes: > "Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes: > >> I've not looked at systemd too closely, but AFAICS, the problem is not >> child-diseases, but more that it's not enough unixy. > > It's like an echo. I keep reading this same opinion. > > 1. I don't know much about it > 2. It's bad. > > Spend a little time appreciating the simplicity of systemd > and then reach your conclusion. In my opinion, the design is > good and it takes a whole bunch of disorganized shell scripts > and turns them into data. I nice simple, readable data structure. Notice that you're the first one I read expressing this judgement about systemd. It's certainly encouraging to have a closer look at it. > Is it "unixy"? > > As if that word meant something, I'd say yes. > It's just the right amount of code to solve the problem. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ “The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk