From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: call function in other window ? Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 14:58:04 +0200 Message-ID: <87k25791cz.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <77FFF9DB-058E-4C00-B8C7-1AF22112AEE4@gmail.com> <0D3E0815-7EBB-4D22-B990-FE48709F31AE@gmail.com> <20170523071040.GA3372@tuxteam.de> <20170523075712.GA4847@tuxteam.de> <20170523085421.GA6637@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1495544324 10852 195.159.176.226 (23 May 2017 12:58:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 12:58:44 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 23 14:58:40 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dD9Oa-0002hQ-8k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2017 14:58:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48840 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dD9Of-0007au-SZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2017 08:58:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44305) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dD9OG-0007ad-5y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2017 08:58:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dD9OB-0006Cu-Od for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2017 08:58:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=40035 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dD9OB-0006Cg-Gp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2017 08:58:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dD9O3-0001y5-N0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2017 14:58:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:PPVjs7ncwqTUs9mnwsNqEjVVOxo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113141 Archived-At: writes: > the web's sucess means there's no backtracking; once > some idea is "out there", it will stay there, to > embarras the designer in eternity, because people > are using it. That's interesting. To some extent even web technology can change because one can use it in a new way. For example, when I first did HTML no one had ever heard of CSS and those homepages today would be cut in half to remove all the design and layup stuff. (Not that that would much improve the quality of the actual webpages which must have been extremely immature...) > then the Holy Grail of Apps and some form of > perverted Java (never thought *that* could be done) > in everyone's pocket, car and sex toy. That's why > Free software (the real Free, written with a big > "F") is more important than ever. And not just the > Free software, but awareness out there. I've heard this from RMS as well but I didn't understand it that time either. What I can see, the smartphones are so totally unergonomic so they can't be used to do creative stuff. Only consumption of material. That doesn't have to be bad. It depends what you consume. But the problem is if people use smartphones instead of computers they can never leave the "consumer prison". I honestly don't see how FOSS can improve that. So what exactly is it FOSS is expected to do for smartphones? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573