From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: I want to contribute and chose right project for graduate thesis
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 20:55:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k22s2xyi.fsf@jane> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86poclqx3p.fsf@zoho.com>
On 2017-07-28, at 01:27, Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> wrote:
> Ken Goldman wrote:
>
>> My 2 cents.
>>
>> Learning how to deal with huge egos and
>> understanding the culture of open source
>> projects is valuable - certainly not a waste
>> of time for a new engineer.
>
> Well, yeah. Actually it is not the huge egos
> that is the problem. What I menat was - some
> time one these lists and groups people have an
> attitude to newcomers that isn't good, either
> they are reluctant to give good answers, like
> they answer in very short sentences, *or* they
> do the opposite, write several pages with
> details which the newcomer won't understand
> much of, and then they start speaking among
> themselves and the newcomer obviously doesn't
> feel encouraged to proceed with the project.
I'm not sure whether I agree. A short answer may be quite good. It may
give a pointer - a starting point to learn. And if someone doesn't get
it, they may always ask further questions.
>> I don't know whether it's thesis-worthy.
>
> Right. Like most other things it is better to
> learn that along the way. Many educations work
> like that way by the way. Like CS. They don't
> teach programming, at least not here they
> don't. It is just something you are expected to
> pick up while doing AI, databases, interfaces,
> and what have you...
>
> And it makes sense! Universities should be
> theory and practice that is oriented to the
> theory, not to the practice itself.
+1 from me. May I hang this quotation on my office's door so that all
students can see it? ;-)
> Because practice is much easier, many, many
> people can do it and certainly anyone who has
> been thru "3" or "5 years" of all that theory
> and theory-practice. (I put the years within
> quotation marks because no one ever comples
> their education in time. Not because being
> lazy, mind you. If anyone would ever do that,
> people would ask, "hey, what is wrong with this
> dude?!")
Really? I did two master's degrees, and both were finished JIT. And
I'm not an exception - many, many of my colleagues did a similar thing.
> But when you are stuck in all that theory it
> sure is a lot of frustration :)
Well, in maths, theory is basically all you've got;-).
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-28 18:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-21 8:46 I want to contribute and chose right project for graduate thesis Mario Krajačić
2017-07-21 16:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-21 18:40 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-21 20:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-22 4:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-22 16:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-27 23:15 ` Ken Goldman
2017-07-27 23:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-28 18:55 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2017-07-28 19:50 ` Drew Adams
2017-07-29 2:30 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-03 17:39 ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-07-29 2:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-21 18:30 ` Kevin Buchs
2017-07-21 19:58 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-21 21:16 ` Tomas Nordin
2017-07-21 22:17 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-21 22:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-22 20:55 ` Tomas Nordin
2017-07-22 21:37 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-07-25 17:39 ` Mario Krajačić
2017-07-25 18:30 ` Emanuel Berg
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2017-07-22 13:33 Richard Melville
2017-07-22 16:25 ` Emanuel Berg
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