From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Max Brieiev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Email Help Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 18:25:20 +0300 Message-ID: <87k0k8dy8v.fsf@gmail.com> References: <878s0pj8zi.fsf@zoho.eu> <87o89k3nhb.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1502"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 17:26:00 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHGS-0000HN-EZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:26:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34090 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHGR-000062-3s for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:25:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHG7-00005k-47 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:25:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x12f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::12f]:36630) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJHG5-0000Cc-QG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:25:38 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id r9so7696122lfn.3 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 08:25:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:references:mail-followup-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=DMXgQ9EdAeeNmG+KeU6/BV6QMB48D6UXb6lRjg9SMI0=; b=Cid4vYlSYsRtxxT7xs1jgXiCmJ2o9vj+wRzqqnVOKLQ5epb3eFbGaJ4EAQ0gnMbzeN yb3C971PiJcHDvEN69A3/Q1idb9MjfvisX+L9sW0KFFH1cVnmXeVYGB1mCoCM2jNlo54 GOKXdUhfz4f8FJwzPZJD6iHP81ru+cJzn81qe2uJ4xqm+em//bkG9RrllkkXZZIKcmm+ 1mzxaCtnE2UcD5Vq+2mbfRtzZatXFu/iJeH0GnfC/WiRVRIDuThjdLJWmaJzsZXYs8GU qiUHRsTpKqARq0kODJwSqBTR7Fx8aZNmq4rPROQkzsy8wTyN0Ay2P7uqeLU5CjzvAzpD T9HA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:mail-followup-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=DMXgQ9EdAeeNmG+KeU6/BV6QMB48D6UXb6lRjg9SMI0=; b=pgtrnAL0HFquzgiO48+yanFnSN5Y0f+qWZbM1Kq7L4Z1+HuJ9jyYhqwPu1ByTjXL40 UV/kcNsiHnXXCYRuglBuvXZlDKosXiwqQqAONAsvzL4SMskEMUd2vcv/TbQC4A2X31xs ZdiCYhhkZ49X/yPPdvrHCrjLwjWltujICMPTFtcMVLM6HznCJgTuFLoPEygayyUt4oGf sfSvD4bnI5mi2DC80mKwrKuvoehi7o2O7DS5wDt9wT+Wb3LoDtnxsqaDJi5TXhzT6kpJ WlcASOqlTif3neKDau4NfcGo7gS+i0xOzFLBa0mRAaNEjEaMsyKw9LSU8d7Z/ewD9UBz ki1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531xECjX7knus1yWerAfm/Zu2xquKSwUrSWLabO9cxR3AVEAqQEz r2Pj+KE3o6oorPXf2LqN7FzGAGSSe20uTw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwmaMpiKd7V0uptRRbsaTg7vnoeHBT5S2EhSUmoqXYSbzSDq/ZFUAOuAEmDGQzMqlwq3h6/VA== X-Received: by 2002:a19:4955:: with SMTP id l21mr3327311lfj.5.1629991534072; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 08:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from arch-max (host-176-37-1-68.b025.la.net.ua. [176.37.1.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g38sm377578lfv.210.2021.08.26.08.25.33 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 26 Aug 2021 08:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87o89k3nhb.fsf@zoho.eu> (Emanuel Berg via Users list for the's message of "Thu, 26 Aug 2021 05:15:44 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::12f; envelope-from=max.brieiev@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x12f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132747 Archived-At: GNUS is hard for me too. Although its manual is well written and entertaining, it is hard to put all things together. I think GNUS would be much more comprehensible, if it had magit-like interface. The complexity of git is so nicely tackled in magit that I believe transient would be a good fit for such a complex package as GNUS.