From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: always local shell? Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:27:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87k0be2sf6.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87wnffl3l0.fsf@zoho.eu> <87mtgbl16p.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23691"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:sDb59GNRpAnOI+T1gpImU62ijJg= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 24 23:42:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nik0I-0005yZ-Mu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 23:42:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39570 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nik0H-0001Jg-AU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 17:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59686) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nihtU-00079j-Al for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:27:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:44858) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nihtR-00062K-C5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:27:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nihtM-000167-VM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:27:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 17:42:27 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137016 Archived-At: Thibaut Verron wrote: > Isn't that essentially the same thing as > > (with-current-buffer "*Messages*" > (shell)) > > ? One can use `messages-buffer' if one don't want to hard-code "*Messages*". Only, that is hard-coded in messages-buffer! 3 times in total 7 lines of code. In /usr/local/share/emacs/29.0.50/lisp/simple.el.gz lines 9804-9810. Also, go to a remote file. Kill the messages buffer and do (messages-buffer) Go to *Messages* and then C-h v default-directory RET - you'll see it is remote as well. Don't know how often people kill the messages buffer tho ... > I think something like > > (let (default-directory user-emacs-directory) > (shell)) > > should also work. Not only does that not work but it also breaks shell so you can't use it any other way either :) But yes, this works: (let ((default-directory user-emacs-directory)) (shell) ) Maybe that's the best one? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal