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* Why do emacs backtraces lack line numbers?
@ 2022-12-20 16:50 John Yates
  2022-12-20 18:56 ` Emanuel Berg
  2022-12-20 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: John Yates @ 2022-12-20 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I am doing my first significant bit of coding in elisp.

Relative to other environments that I have used, something
that I miss sorely is line numbers in backtraces.

What explains their absence?

/john



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* Re: Why do emacs backtraces lack line numbers?
  2022-12-20 16:50 Why do emacs backtraces lack line numbers? John Yates
@ 2022-12-20 18:56 ` Emanuel Berg
  2022-12-20 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2022-12-20 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

John Yates wrote:

> I am doing my first significant bit of coding in elisp.
>
> Relative to other environments that I have used, something
> that I miss sorely is line numbers in backtraces.
>
> What explains their absence?

Lisp? :)

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* Re: Why do emacs backtraces lack line numbers?
  2022-12-20 16:50 Why do emacs backtraces lack line numbers? John Yates
  2022-12-20 18:56 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2022-12-20 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-12-20 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

> From: John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 11:50:46 -0500
> 
> I am doing my first significant bit of coding in elisp.
> 
> Relative to other environments that I have used, something
> that I miss sorely is line numbers in backtraces.
> 
> What explains their absence?

The line information needs to be recorded somewhere, before it can be
presented.  In compiled programs, for example, the compiler records
the line-number information in the debug info it generates.

None of this is present in Lisp, and moreover, until Emacs 29 the byte
compiler didn't even have a good idea of which line number it is
processing at any given time.

So I guess the simple answer is: because Emacs doesn't know.



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