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[141.239.253.106]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b6-20020a17090a6e0600b0022bbada0848sm2269774pjk.18.2023.01.21.09.47.20 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:47:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Sat, 21 Jan 2023 16:57:15 +0300") Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::112c; envelope-from=bobnewell@bobnewell.net; helo=mail-yw1-x112c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142484 Archived-At: >> > I don't recommend Gnus unless you have a lot of time to >> > configure Emacs and don't do any business/HTML email. I do ALL my business email, dozens of messages per day, in Gnus. I don't send HTML email but Gnus reads it with just a small amount of setup (one line, if memory serves). When Gnus is set up to work along with BBDB, it opens up enormous possibilities of customizations very useful to the business world. I won't minimize the amount of time that has gone into setting up Gnus to work as I wish. I started out with Gnus about 15 years ago when a then-colleague suggested it to me when I was using viewmail (VM) instead. Gnus of course is not perfect; nothing is. But I have yet to find a single relevant task[1] that Gnus cannot do. Whenever I think, "I'd like to do X with email" Gnus always comes through either natively or with some elisp coding. To get Gnus to where you want it, you do have to walk down something of a long-ish road, but the payoff is huge. -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i - Via GNU/Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB [1] Let's stick to relevant tasks. Gnus cannot do my laundry, although that would be a great addition.