From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Tennant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How old are Emacs users? Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 21:00:57 +0300 Message-ID: <87irb81nae.fsf@moley.org> References: <1178258085.859424.131690@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <17979.47847.711260.680216@mail.eng.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178301596 23371 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 17:59:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:59:56 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 19:59:55 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk24O-0000mj-Fn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 19:59:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk2B2-0005il-VR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 14:06:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk2Aq-0005hr-Nw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 14:06:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk2Ap-0005hI-Re for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 14:06:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk2Ap-0005hF-Nu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 14:06:31 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hk249-0006mj-PA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 13:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk245-0008Ey-4y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 19:59:33 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.105.17.65 ([85.105.17.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 19:59:33 +0200 Original-Received: from sebyte by 85.105.17.65 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 19:59:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 57 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.105.17.65 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RgDKMVZkM1FSHpN5TKmEwNdd1yk= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43683 Archived-At: Quoth GianUberto.Lauri@eng.it (Gian Uberto Lauri): >>>>>> "s" == sixdegreepub writes: > > s> I'm 15 and I began to use Emacs and Linux recently. This is probably one of the best decisions you will ever make! Emacs is probably the most universally useful program ever written. It can do virtually anything you tell it to. Vis-a-vis the freedoms embodied in Emacs and Linux, this is also a vitally important and again the choice you have made is the right one. Any work you do within the world of free software will be of lasting value for generations to come (if it's any good :-). Proprietary software has a shelf-life, just like every other commodity in the marketplace. You mayn't get rich SO quickly, but the fact is, with free software, whether you're living in a damp basement apartment, living on pizza and barely able to pay the rent, or earning lots of money working for a multi-national corporation in shiny, modern offices in the centre of the business district, you are never, ever, wasting your time. > s> I say that is unknown, because I am not able to tell my classmates > s> what its advantage is. Free software is better by design, implementaion, maintenance model, and principle (and the folks who work on it are nicer :-) In a year or two, the idea of paying money for crappy shrink-wrapped brain-damaged software that doesn't let you tinker with it in any way will astound you! I recently saw an interesting DVD you might like to watch called 'Revolution OS'. Get it from Amazon. It features quite a lot of good stuff, and it will introduce you to Richard Stallman, the visionary founder of the Free Software Movement (and primary author of Emacs). > s> Also that is because I am not familiar with Emacs. > > There is always something to learn with Emacs :). This is very true. > You will learn that Emacs can work for you as opposed to require you > to manouver it over and over again... > > Start with C-x ( and C-x ). In case you're confused, that's 'C-x (' and 'C-x )', but I'm not sure if keyboard macros are the best place to start. Congratulations. I guarantee you will never look back. Sebastian