From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alberto Luaces Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Handling mail Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:55:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87ipr4dlln.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> References: <19998.64601.266213.844826@phoenix.squirrel.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310716626 864 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2011 07:57:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:57:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 15 09:57:02 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhdGf-00013A-OD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:57:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48295 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhdGe-0004jo-MP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60255) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhdFG-0004jd-RH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhdFF-00068j-NJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:55:34 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:55267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhdFF-00068d-GO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:55:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhdFE-0000Qf-0E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:55:32 +0200 Original-Received: from eps142.cdf.udc.es ([193.144.52.142]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:55:31 +0200 Original-Received: from aluaces by eps142.cdf.udc.es with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:55:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: eps142.cdf.udc.es User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fISfHVM42H/l5gvlxxK41TiBvkc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81593 Archived-At: Johan Vromans writes: > After having used GNU/Emacs+VM for 20-odd years I wonder: is it still > viable to use Emacs to handle modern mail? > > Most mail and mail-related packages (e.g. VM, BBDB, MailCrypt, WL) > seem to be outdated and unmaintained for years. Many problems exist > with multi-media mail, Unicode, and so on. > > Gnus seems to be the only package that is up-to-date (I use it for > reading news and mailing lists), however I've never been able to live > with it as a news reader. I'm very hooked to VM's virtual folders. > My dearest wish is to continue using Emacs for mail but currently this > feels like a dead end. > > What are your ideas and suggestions? It's very likely that you have already seen `virtual groups' in gnus. I don't know if they can match the ones from VM. As for a BBDB replacement, you could try `org-contacts', which also has a gnus integration available. -- Alberto