From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Versions: major, minor and ...? Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 06:29:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87im1y8sl2.fsf@yandex.com> References: <87sg147b7g.fsf@yandex.com> <87sg12ocse.fsf@cock.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18845"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: , Stefan Monnier To: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 28 07:31:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lxjru-0004nc-LG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 07:31:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53468 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lxjrt-00078j-4w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 01:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34356) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lxjqF-0005wQ-Hh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 01:29:55 -0400 Original-Received: from forward105p.mail.yandex.net ([77.88.28.108]:45414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lxjqC-0008Oq-1t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 01:29:55 -0400 Original-Received: from iva6-9c4bacd762e0.qloud-c.yandex.net (iva6-9c4bacd762e0.qloud-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0c:9107:0:640:9c4b:acd7]) by forward105p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AE6544D41C2B; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:29:47 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from iva1-bc1861525829.qloud-c.yandex.net (iva1-bc1861525829.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c0c:a0e:0:640:bc18:6152]) by iva6-9c4bacd762e0.qloud-c.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id Ep2arPAbaU-TlHCJphX; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:29:47 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1624858187; bh=0ou8tV1hA3ovVvzNvTntuUA5QAfcBPFiivvUprwMvqY=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Cc:Cc:Date:References; b=TCpnuTCfS5Mp699OtiCk6AhvCzVHjYwDLq7vTaWJElivWqkB2w37giC283adldAu/ Px9duUEpFeNlm/TNADA6G0Gk8y7C27HscLhUGZrdbmLzz2RrnVMe/FWJfVpJxYjou2 sFsEvY1fdkeSThNaX/dHTXhiE0bJi1hHzWnmAFFo= Authentication-Results: iva6-9c4bacd762e0.qloud-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Original-Received: by iva1-bc1861525829.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 5CEumeXkDC-Tk2mB8YT; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:29:46 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier via Users list for the's message of "Mon, 28 Jun 2021 00:22:51 -0400") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=77.88.28.108; envelope-from=m43cap@yandex.com; helo=forward105p.mail.yandex.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131313 Archived-At: >>>>> Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor writes: > mrf [2021-06-28 06:56:20] wrote: >> Colin Baxter writes: >>> The current emacs development version is "28.0.5". I know that >>> "28" is the value of the emacs-major-version variable and "0" is >>> the value of the emacs-minor-version variable. I assume "5" is >>> also the value of a variable, but what's its name? >> The third number after the dots is called micro or in some >> projects patch, please take a look at semantic versioning >> (semver.org) and the > Note that Emacs does not use semantic versioning. Emacs release > versions have the shape NN.MM and nothing more. > Emacs code that's not released has versions of the form NN.MM.OO > where OO can be 50 to mean "this is the code we're working on that > will hopefully become NN.MM+1", or it can be a of the form 9x (or > 99x or 999x ..., tho I seem to remember we've also used a sequence > like 98, 99, 100, 101 at some point) for pretest versions > (basically beta-releases) of NN.MM+1. > [ In the past, Emacs *executables* had versions numbers of the > form NN.MM.BB (or NN.MM.OO.BB for non-release versions) where BB > was a "build number", i.e. something that gets incremented every > time the user builds Emacs again from the same directory. We're > not using that any more, tho. ] Thank you for the information. In centuries to come, no doubt someone will write a thesis unravelling the arcane numbering in emacs versions. Best wishes, Colin Baxter.