From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Dired command on same host Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:25:25 +0100 Message-ID: <87iluqr85m.fsf@gmx.de> References: <877dbf94su.fsf@elite.giraud> <87czl77j7e.fsf@gmx.de> <87iluz79ja.fsf@elite.giraud> <878rvv73mr.fsf@gmx.de> <87k0ffp9mp.fsf@gnu.org> <877dbe7cf9.fsf@elite.giraud> <87iluxnb79.fsf@logand.com> <87ee5l5drh.fsf@gmx.de> <87bl0n8s0n.fsf@gmx.de> <87o84kvstr.fsf@elite.giraud> <87v8yriwb7.fsf@gmx.de> <874k6bsmzj.fsf@elite.giraud> <87mtk3iqkg.fsf@gmx.de> <87wnj7pnwf.fsf@elite.giraud> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34796"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Tomas Hlavaty , Tassilo Horn To: Manuel Giraud Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 11 09:27:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7CVK-0008qP-NZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:27:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54312 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7CVJ-00043f-Kt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 03:27:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7CTL-00041S-5p for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 03:25:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:59157) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7CTJ-0002Cf-5D; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 03:25:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1641889527; bh=zLrSsNZ1nHRNvlN+D6n88mnwYi2aQkUhdPktU3iiSBc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=YI11MdgvYZH+w+J6nWet2iZMLSDMXfAClXgPFSRsOeMEjZCwSZvuObMOlhccrT4Lg DbI+9J5zPLoIUDn+9GTWeGbRShaSHfNMGHLrYcgBqV8asittATJh64dvhPvXaEBm9F flRzr04Iy+XkwaCM3LCHd8l43869+xB+M5JMWHUs= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([212.91.238.191]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MJmGZ-1mnBgE2TG5-00KAzB; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:25:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87wnj7pnwf.fsf@elite.giraud> (Manuel Giraud's message of "Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:16:00 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:JmkvZoWKEXrvqTxCO3D57LayaBLnwcQ8nGWXblFr0SYtYonfZV7 wMYQ53QmY/0n5Pte2d0Ndl/sI5HDEIsx1Zk2Sn74fqiwUDApdYSWvofm2b/JWhBemGd5UTq xsO8dbz5BHo2hJt5OWMZE2nntigwbNdNbtdB1aQafDQpkhJvKDHVTzbk+POiIcb0B7gOM+W /hZhuGjdctyOHcHy6NA1w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:JcXySuahbxQ=:pt9lJ3XBjhWKNtoz8aWEgb A+KJLoTo4637yIx40KhDJCUZhkU7mcNbZomcRxhejRrOxnWIp1bHvIXEBrfSAcPQhLpCjPIbt /EOrYvi1OWY4FCY5FcuN5z6GfL+G8lyqAgXMH3Y5w7EtnHtY2K2etkOrcEBp8ECwcDxH9Saza mcRvU51LyWgrlJKw0GVfIf+G8uIKKCqZccK7jKBOx8Vwb0jr7xGe4ZS+MkdgXQOsi+xTDrsbO buUEIitIHoPlmpnT3lZAiykH0iqw4b6Vdd8kThNqhN7g4QvgazE9iCkparl47wshYFkpc3TLa kXuMAXVWFgMlorXEIDHCJalq2nc7fyurm18n/U4mdsyb0zERfqbIQ9XDADXKoIaG9hYQ/8+db O98YYwNQKvUoACl8MxrxGDDeCRyhGy9xw5oByZwUg5l/W6W+jgftYqwjBaKoLHhn8uWbYKnGy TvF9FjCipox4mBqMRvD/qif3BTkQRaQoWPmX463KlzZe60OwRkbYq55r4eusOHCgGcxivC0UU zDcGk+pOyTdY1b/7Yo7P4KGQBKNJ15fY/oPd0xdH8ZVl0i+TqmKEkla9cadrVO5LgOPB2nI6i y3jz5vI05qddzfiGTg+W9uAB4777wohXxdROdunJDLaNG5jiLHu13gd+otejoFFOFKbH7H44S 0xPCTGUsQRLIEAKDGwocO/wsFFz1J7o3IE/SmkvU8ki4YUUJqVUzpSwj9FwotMP2Zqgpn4qGT CrLo3AUd3kzmxvhkvWBL1DJ2JPvX2ZN3T+K++ZRs1cNVtzP8taFay7UEkximCYB630RrD6Fz Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135194 Archived-At: Manuel Giraud writes: Hi Manuel, > And according this: https://www.openssh.com/releasenotes.html, the > default is not SFTP yet in the last release of openssh. So maybe it > could be a method worth having for tramp in the future ;-) "sftp" was a supported Tramp method in tramp-sh.el in the past. However, it also needs an ordinary "ssh" connection. This doesn't work, if just the sftp subsystem is enabled on the remote side, but ssh is disabled. Therefore, Tramp's "sftp" support was moved to tramp-gvfs.el, where it seems to work properly. However, tramp-gvfs.el has its own limitations, it requires GVFS and D-Bus (roughly, a GNU/Linux system). Best regards, Michael.