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envelope-from=a_eder_muc@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142364 Archived-At: On Mi 18 Jan 2023 at 15:07, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > >> =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: >> >>> Even a programmer can't assume that associativity and commutativity >>> can be used on a long, finite, sum. >> >> As long as it's a sum, of course can a programmer assume that. > > Of course not! Otherwise your numerical simulation can go very wrong :-) > > (hint: numbers in computers are approximate, adding small numbers to > large numbers is a bad idea.) Only floating point numbers. Integers are exact and in lisps like elisp there is no artificial size limit. 'Andreas