From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: stats say SBCL is 78 875 % faster than natively compiled Elisp Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 21:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87ilfy20jf.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87bklw7ka3.fsf@dataswamp.org> <878rgyjgcc.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87o7pq21i4.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28630"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:A6+H5teW3ihjbjC/rv5G32dr270= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 18 21:22:03 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pTTid-00079I-B4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 21:22:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTTiI-0006F6-EX; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 15:21:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTTc1-0005ME-3o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 15:15:13 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTTby-0004Fh-K0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 15:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pTTbw-0008vn-L5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 21:15:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87o7pq21i4.fsf@dataswamp.org> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Sat, 18 Feb 2023 20:54:11 +0100") Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 4 X-Spam_score: 0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT=2.017 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 15:21:40 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142774 Archived-At: > - Why is our native-compile just 7% faster than our > byte-compile? I is still based on the byte-model, just now > adopted for native hardware? *Is it > Is all Elisp shipped with Emacs natively compiled? Here you understand what I mean, but it should say: will it be? No code shipped with Emacs is natively compiled, as that happens on the native computer. But it happens when Emacs is run and when the Elisp is `required' from another Elisp file that is itself already natively compiled, so if the Elisp is just loaded with `load-file', it won't happen. How can I natively compile _all_ Elisp, my own from the Makefile when byte-compiling, and all other Elisp just once and for all since I don't change that? (By all means, the after change-thing don't have to be disabled or anything as those method are not contradictory, on the ... contrary.) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal