revert-buffer in dired

revert-buffer in dired

[Dieter Faulbaum]

I think, it would be nice, if the newly introduced:

*** Clicking on base name of directory reverts buffer.
When 'dired-make-directory-clickable' is non-nil, clicking on the 
base
name of the directory now reverts the Dired buffer.

should not change the position of the cursor.
Is this possible?

The 'revert-buffer' in dired also changes the position of the 
cursor (to the filename of the "actual" line).
What is the idea of this?

The revert-buffer with a file doesn't do this (if the file becomes 
greater (from "outside")).

RE: [External] : revert-buffer in dired

[Drew Adams]

> I think, it would be nice, if the newly introduced:
> 
> *** Clicking on base name of directory reverts buffer.
> When 'dired-make-directory-clickable' is non-nil, clicking on the
> base name of the directory now reverts the Dired buffer.
> 
> should not change the position of the cursor.
> Is this possible?
> 
> The 'revert-buffer' in dired also changes the position of the
> cursor (to the filename of the "actual" line).

Do you mean that the cursor is moved from whatever
position it had to the beginning of the file name
of that _same line_?

Or do you mean that the cursor is moved from
wherever it was to a different line (at the
file-name beginning)?

> What is the idea of this?

If you mean the former (above), then this is the
standard movement location: beginning of file name.
It's what you get when you use `n' or `p', for
example.  The current line is recorded as part of
a Dired buffer's state.  The cursor position is not.

I can't speak authoritatively to the new vanilla
Dired breadcrumbs behavior about this.  But if you
use Dired+ then what I describe above happens: the
cursor is placed on the same line, at the file-name
beginning.
___

A breadcrumbs difference wrt between vanilla Dired
and Dired+, I believe, is that the vanilla behavior
is that function `dired-revert' is always used,
instead of whatever function is currently the value
of `revert-buffer-function'.

For example, with Dired+ in a `find' Dired buffer,
clicking what you call the "base" name (the last
component of the absolute file name) runs the `find'
command again, to refresh its listing.

With vanilla Dired, I believe that even in a `find'
Dired buffer clicking there just lists the default
directory.  I think using the `revert-buffer' of
the given buffer is more useful (e.g., in the case
of `find', redo the `find').  There are lots of
buffer modes that derive from `dired-mode', and
they sometimes have different revert functions.
To me, it makes sense for reverting them to use the
function defined for the specific mode.
___

Dired+ is here:

Doc: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DiredPlus

Code: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/dired%2b.el

Re: revert-buffer in dired

[Michael Heerdegen via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Dieter Faulbaum <mail@faulbaum.in-berlin.de> writes:

> I think, it would be nice, if the newly introduced:
>
> *** Clicking on base name of directory reverts buffer.
> When 'dired-make-directory-clickable' is non-nil, clicking on the base
> name of the directory now reverts the Dired buffer.
>
> should not change the position of the cursor.
> Is this possible?

I wrote a note to the bug report where this change had been discussed -
you are CC'd.

> The 'revert-buffer' in dired also changes the position of the cursor
> (to the filename of the "actual" line).
> What is the idea of this?

Dired saves a lot of information to restore for reverting.  Since the
file name point is on can appear on a different line after reverting, we save
the file name and, I think, don't care about the position to a finer
degree since it is not really relevant for the sake of dired commands.


Michael.

RE: [External] : Re: revert-buffer in dired

[Drew Adams]

> I wrote a note to the bug report where this change had been discussed -
> you are CC'd.

That note is here:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=74700#34

I see from your note there that the OP here wasn't
complaining that the cursor position changes to
the beginning of the file name, on the same line;
OP here was saying that it changes to the _buffer_
beginning (bob).  That indeed sounds like a bug.

FWIW, my code in Dired+ doesn't have that problem.
It puts the cursor on the same line as it was, but
at the beginning of the file name (like ordinary
reverting in Dired).

> > The 'revert-buffer' in dired also changes the position
> > of the cursor (to the filename of the "actual" line).
> > What is the idea of this?
> 
> Dired saves a lot of information to restore for reverting.  Since the
> file name point is on can appear on a different line after reverting, we
> save the file name and, I think, don't care about the position to a finer
> degree since it is not really relevant for the sake of dired commands.

Yes.

Re: [External] : revert-buffer in dired

[Dieter Faulbaum]

Yes, I mean the changing of the cursor position to "bob".

But I think that changing the position to the beginning of the 
file name
is not a bug but maybe unnecessary. But I can "live with that".-)

Thank for "accepting" this as a bug (and repairing it).

I don't use Dired+ (anymore, but have forgotten my reason,-)