From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Copy things out of Emacs Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 19:07:09 +1000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <87hcq27fpe.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <87y7jle8pt.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87k5v5kzi5.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <877ir0cfjn.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179999929 25351 80.91.229.12 (24 May 2007 09:45:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:45:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 24 11:45:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hr9sn-0004Qx-4R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 May 2007 11:45:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hr9sp-00062B-GA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 May 2007 05:45:23 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!sn-xt-sjc-05!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PL2f3tNste52LbAfm2IeAUmi83M= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 47 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:148785 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:44370 Archived-At: Leo writes: > ----- Tim X (2007-05-23) wrote:----- > >> Seeing a number of posts from you regarding functionality you want >> from emacs running in an xterm, I have to ask why do you want to run >> emacs in an xterm? Is it simply to get aliased fonts or something? > > It is almost as good as running Emacs in X, supports XFT and unicode and > much stabler. > > I can easily crash Emacs 23 and it consumes a lot of CPU sometimes. Bug > reports have been submitted a long time ago. No fix so far. > Hmm, that must be some issue with the unicode branch of emacs 22. I'm running the main branch and have been for a long time now. I was running the older X toolkit version, but have switched to the GTK version about 6 weeks ago. I run almost exclusively within native X and have no stability problems or any load issues. I've had perhaps one or two crashes in over 18 months and some problems with tramp (which turned out to be due to an add-on package. I live in emacs pretty much every day all day, at work and at home. The only issue I've not yet solved is one that popped up about a month ago. I'm getting 'odd' behavior with some advised functions which only occurs in the GTK version and I've since found out I can only reproduce it with emacs 22 built from sources on a Debian 'Unstable' distribution. I need to put in a lot of effort to try and track it down as it makes no sense to affect only the GTK version and not the version built with th e older X toolkit. The good news is its all working fine and as stable as a rock under Debian testing. As the unicode branch is still under active development and given the likely impact of the changes in that branch, I suspect you will find many packages that don't quite work correctly. Changing something as large as emacs to use unicode is not trivial and there are many emacs packages that have been written with the assumption of character sets being single byte etc. I have found the UTF-8 support in the main branch of eamcs 22 to be very good and reliable. If that is enough for you, I'd suggest trying the main 22 branch within an xterm and seeing if that improves the situation for you (is the XFT stuff even relevant if your running within an xterm anyway? wouldn't the xterm be handling all of that?) Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au