From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Guerry Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:26:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87hcaiiatp.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216715326 9579 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 08:28:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:28:46 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 10:29:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLDFN-0002na-Lq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:29:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55775 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLDEU-0000ab-E8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLDCc-0008B4-Dt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:26:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLDCa-00089r-VT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:26:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42772 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLDCa-00089l-Bd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:26:32 -0400 Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]:39494) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLDCa-0004g9-5V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:26:32 -0400 Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id l31so375136ugc.48 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:26:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:sender; bh=WAekEDIXkwFvWXk4J6ymtKnTdq8Ufd+hUEh5C64T+NI=; b=l5TPZGr5ZylRjOFcnBdePQ7VD+Zn++lzGU4SBxA/HgSha90slVZeAM99wPQ8ihvtPs WkShGuavNi7+LuqnsAahRgzRA4LEoI7ghDBcyYmzRBA3JkQsF/HRPptBu90zVuuXaJSK alo706UEmzcaQtLcR41WqiEtb9MsVR/sWp0BM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:sender; b=c7ytr+KZ7r9MLpVqJ4vstD+FTVYyzO7hpdwWRkY8jqJZ6QJi9eHx2OOITkKHKaTemh Tr60nTXx1cpPLeSJOHzpJDZZfM2LzOtwr1PsHmnuFn8P6fBgnSO8MzaH283FURKEmRhd y4OMtygZOV0/tof6oSOQ94DryMgZzmKA28peA= Original-Received: by 10.66.234.13 with SMTP id g13mr2268031ugh.68.1216715190978; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ( [79.94.49.81]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm1417750ugh.76.2008.07.22.01.26.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EB0BC158165; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:26:26 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> (Xah's message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:04:13 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55783 Archived-At: Xah writes: > I don't think its a good idea to teach or insist that people adopt > emacs's terminologies. Adopting Emacs terminology is not good per se, it's good because it helps people adopt Emacs. > In particular, the term buffer is unsuitable and outdated. See the > following argument: You're arguing like a lawyer: since you cannot change the law itself, you're just trying to change the spirit of the law. Please improve Emacs if you want to, it will be more constructive than trying to change the "spirit" behind Emacs... -- Bastien