From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: variable's documentation string Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:44:07 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87hbxxtpt4.fsf@galatea.local> References: <67ca21fb-4953-4699-b190-df74a1035228@r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> <2c6889fe-6935-41d6-8a8e-2b6a07761cd7@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> <7cws6vjsug.fsf@pbourguignon.anevia.com> <0a97f5cb-d434-4014-ba0b-dd5126095fbf@f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> <68272c76-65d8-4c1b-9e97-955c55c9e1a8@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1246421528 17002 80.91.229.12 (1 Jul 2009 04:12:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:12:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 01 06:12:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MLrAv-00078u-FM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:12:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47359 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MLrAu-0002l4-Rf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:12:00 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed1-a.proxad.net!nnrp12-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en X-Disabled: X-No-Archive: no User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZjhjYzZmZmMzYTlkMTBkZjVlZGUwMTEzMjZkZGQ4MTE5Yzc2MThhOA== Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jun 2009 22:44:09 MEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.182.134.169 Original-X-Trace: 1246394649 news-3.free.fr 25386 88.182.134.169:59061 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:170477 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:54:29 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:65700 Archived-At: TheFlyingDutchman writes: >> >> That's not the way Lisp works.  When the form 'some_variable was read, >> the symbol was created (with a void value, void function, and nil >> property list). >> >> If you evaluate (symbol-value 'some_variable) or (symbol-function >> 'some_variable), you'll get an error.  But not (symbol-plist >> 'some_variable). >> > > Thanks Kevin. That certainly is "interesting" behavior. Not what I > would prefer. Is there a way to test that a symbols value and function > are void without getting an error? boundp and fboundp. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__