From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Inputting characters with specialist diacritic marks in emacs Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:05:50 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9i92sb5.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <571eb6f1-614e-4ec0-9c55-bbe1fbfb9ddc@googlegroups.com> <8760yppd44.fsf@debian.uxu> <87mvs147n7.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453237590 14465 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2016 21:06:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:06:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 19 22:06:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLdTn-0000Us-Fk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:06:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39247 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLdTj-0001et-BW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:06:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44641) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLdTV-0001ee-QW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:06:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLdTS-0003yS-Ie for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:06:01 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLdTS-0003yM-Bo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:05:58 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLdTR-0000NO-6C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:05:57 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-227.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:05:57 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-227.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:05:57 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 51 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-227.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PJcfh20lQbXlqexU/k0lqytkP08= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108796 Archived-At: Nick Dokos writes: >> The solution is the compose key, which in the Linux >> VTs (the ttys, or "the console") is setup like >> I show soon. But, you probably don't use the ttys, >> so I show this just to illustrate the principle. >> In X, you can do the same, of course, just not the >> same way. > > setxkbmap can be used for that: > > setxkbmap -query > > shows me > > I do the ctrl:nocaps thing and the variants, but > everything else is preset for me somehow. If you > don't have a compose key, then I presume > > setxkbmap -option compose:ralt > > will make Right-Alt be the compose key. Good! Probably some thought should be put into what the compose key should be. I have it, according to showkey(1), at keycode 125 which is between the control key and the alt key on the left side of space on my Sun keyboard. I suppose the important thing is that you have the compose key on one side, and the prefixes on the other, so you can use the left hand to do one thing, and the right hand to do the other! > compose+a " -> ä > compose+a ' -> á > compose+a ` -> à > [...] Yes, as you see that all make sense! That's cool. But it doesn't have to as, again, it'll enter the muscle memory/finger habits soon enough. But why not make it mnemonic as well when it is so easy to do? It is not like mnemonic shortcuts DON'T enter the muscle memory/finger habits just as well! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573