From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Help setting up POP3 email (rmail) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:11:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9gth9cv.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87wppvc52x.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87d1rlu0v9.fsf@debian.uxu> <8737sfjlce.fsf@debian.uxu> <87r3fyiyri.fsf@debian.uxu> <20160227082842.GA30139@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456625552 7974 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2016 02:12:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 02:12:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 28 03:12:23 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aZqqM-00062c-Kh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:12:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57092 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZqqI-0005xf-PK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:12:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46129) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZqq1-0005xG-KW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZqpx-00054s-JB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:12:01 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38956) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZqpx-0004zY-C7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:11:57 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aZqpr-0005rG-8x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:11:51 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-54.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:11:51 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-54.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:11:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-54.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zf2vM06xhD95b/QTirYAsLPQ0Us= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:109348 Archived-At: writes: > myself a fan of maildir (one file per message plus > hiding metadata in the file name -- I just don't > like that) -- but it's as Unixy as it gets (qmail, > D.J. Bernstein, ca 1990-some). Development on UNIX in particular started in 1969. The first manual was published internally in 1971. But the by-now famous man pages aren't like the manual you get when you buy a decibel meter at Crooks"R"Us. It is as much a definition and specification of the system as a documentation thereof. UNIX was officially announced in 1973. The Unix file system is based on inodes to contain file attributes, which lend itself to elaborate file systems, including nested directory hierarchies... The manual, the man pages, (not) coincidentally, are not stored in a single file - ls /usr/share/man - but are a bunch of (g)roff files which are displayed by a pager, a precursor to the system of PDFs and LaTeX, as well as the web browsers that does the same with HTML and CSS to display a web page. The whole UNIX, by now GNU/Linux toolchain, is also based on operations on text, which are stored in files. If everything that was associated by purpose or form would be in single files, you could virtually throw away three quarters of the tools as they would be totally hampered anyway. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573