From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Ideas on Hypertext systems in Emacs needed Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 03:20:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87h7i9xicx.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87lf7lxmpg.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9482"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:87TS2d+3Qd+TNvEtYX/7kokDrRg= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 08 03:21:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lqQQP-0002G2-Il for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 03:21:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59024 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqQQN-0006Sl-SY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:20:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51784) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqQPr-0006Sc-NS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:20:27 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:42578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqQPq-0002co-0j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:20:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lqQPl-0001Qf-SF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 03:20:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130609 Archived-At: Eduardo Ochs wrote: > English is not my first language, but to me "use whatever > everyone else is using" seems to imply "don't use niche > tools that are used by small groups of very enthusiastic > hackers that love them very much". OK, but what exactly is the hacker alternative to HTTP, HTML, and the web, then? Non-commercial/capitalist project without a license: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/blog/tree-house/summer-2021.html I'm not against licenses per se... or wait, we are not talking about that? We are talking about the web. Yes, there were many attempts, for Mac there was a popular program called Hypercard, the GNU info pages of course, and others I either don't know at all or don't know of right now. It doesn't matter - now, it is, or should be, all web, all in the open. But attempts are good, that happens in nature as well as human society all the time. Only when the Red Army enters Berlin, you don't apply for membership in the NSDAP, you know what I'm saying? When one side is one-sidedly victorious, you do the best out of that instead of do something meaningless with something that do not apply anymore. Is what I would do. Maybe! Don't worry. We will add your technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal