From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : (bounds-of-thing-at-point 'number) =?utf-8?Q?=E2=87=92?= nil Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 16:48:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87h79c6lnp.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87iltuf80m.fsf@zoho.eu> <87a6f6f54p.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14528"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:n6Y96R5djvvPXz3VUcIpeMZYphY= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 06 16:49:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjnZ-0003ZK-MM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 16:49:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43932 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjnY-0005Vq-Jc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:49:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjmp-0005U2-6u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:49:11 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:60284) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjml-00082m-CS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:49:10 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nGjmU-0002Gc-58 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 16:48:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135787 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > This is what such a file says. Do you think users shouldn't > be told this? > > ;;; Commentary: > ;; > ;; Extensions to library `ffap.el'. > ;; > ;; To use this library, add this to your initialization file. > ;; > ;; (require 'ffap-) ; Load this library. > ;; > ;; You should explicitly load *only* `ffap-.el', not also > ;; `ffap.el' (this will automatically load `ffap.el'). In general I think if they have to be told that, one hasn't written good enough code. If A and B don't rely on each other, obviously the order does not matter. If B relies on A, then whenever B is loaded it will just `require' A so again the order won't matter, or rather, the correct order is not an issue with A, and implicit with B. >> Or they are not redefining each other's stuff, are they? > > They are. And at specific points. Then you ask for trouble. And not just for this reason. But then yes, if B relies on A and B redefines stuff in A, if one intends to use those redefined methods while still referring to them with A's names, then one cannot load A after loading B ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal