From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pascal Bourguignon Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How old are Emacs users? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:25:11 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87fy6moe8o.fsf@thalassa.lan.informatimago.com> References: <87bqhd4swc.fsf@MagnumOpus.khem> <854pn4nvoh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ps5rv5ei.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <873b2mvfuz.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177634184 26514 80.91.229.12 (27 Apr 2007 00:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:36:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 02:36:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HhERf-0006jD-9c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:36:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhEXR-0004Sn-Ue for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:42:18 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 Original-X-Trace: individual.net pb1Wg05UEljxDx84BAK2kAqf0i72TZ1EyCbpuf2bgDHDRjExbe Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en X-Disabled: X-No-Archive: no User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nkeX8uFm/WBEW+o4dZ9oO0fJV8Y= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:147641 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43244 Archived-At: Tim X writes: > Klaus Straubinger writes: > >> Tim X wrote: >> >> [startup settings in X resources] >>> I think its easier, clearer and faster than writing bits of elisp to >>> set the default frame, the initial frame and then turn off toolbar >>> etc. >> >> I don't find it easier to maintain settings in two different places, >> with totally different syntaxes, where one of them is operating-system >> dependent. And why is that clearer? >> >> Emacs settings should be in the Emacs initialization file, in my >> opinion. >> > > Fine and your welcome to disagree. I just fine five or so lines of the form > > Emacs.geometry: 80x55 > Emacs.toolbar: 0 > etc > > simpler than having to have > > (setq initial-frame-alist '((top . 1) > (left . 1) > (width . 80) > (height . 55))) > (setq default-frame-alist '((top . 1) > (left . 1) > (width . 80) > (height . 55))) > > plus you still get the resize flicker etc, which you don't get if you put > things in xresources. Of course, everyones milage differs. I don't work on > multiple platforms, so having all my X stuff in xresources is both convenient > and consistent for me. If I also ran on Windows, maybe I'd do it differently > (though I expect you wold need different settings anyway). You could also add a little elisp function to update ~/.Xresources with the default-frame-alist, so the flicker disappears after the next launch when you change your ~/.emacs. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ "Indentation! -- I will show you how to indent when I indent your skull!"